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7/17/2022 2:48:00 PM
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Absurd vex mythoclast drops
its basically the title. Vex mythoclast drops are astronomically low with barely any bad luck protection. I have seen a few guardians with 200+ clears and still nothing. I even have a friend who crossed 300 looted clears yesterday and got nothing. The drop rate needs to be tuned a little bit and implement a better bad luck protection system. Maybe make it so if you pass a certain amount of clears you get the vex as a guaranteed drop. I understand that the weapon is amazing and if it becomes more available, it can make crucible annoying but grinding a raid for 100h and not getting the raid weapon is just absurd. Sure, people can be unlucky, -blam!- happens, but being this unlucky is just absurd. Another question: what is the drop rate of this thing? i have seen articles saying that the drop rate is 5% with 0.25% increase for the first clear of the week. Others say that the drop rate is 1% with no bad luck protection. The braytech website and app say that the drop rate is around 28% (spoiler it isn't). I think the drop rate should be more clear.
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i agree the drop rate for Vex is absurdly low
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6 RepliesEdited by Athena: 7/18/2022 4:20:18 PMI agree that the drop rate is horrid and needs to be addressed. However, you are gross exaggerating with your numbers on looted chests. At current, there is only 183 looted possibilities. Unless, at some point, the chests were farmable.
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Edited by ace010593: 7/18/2022 8:37:37 PMGood thing Bungo is so transparent with information on drop rates and how they work. Jokes aside there should be no reason to not give a player the raid exotic after 20 full runs. By that point you know what the raid is about and it’s a breeze. Tying it to pure rng at that point has nothing to do with skill and everything to do with just being lucky. Just turning the raid into yet another weekly chore
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Well, it's Bungie. To me, even the gambit memento is a myth. Some say it exists, to me it's only stories.
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4 RepliesDid everyone see the post from a guy that said “vex is guaranteed drop after 10 runs” and he is adamant that this is correct
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Yeah I'm on 183 clears and still no Vex.
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3 RepliesSo if your friend did it 300 times, and lets say 12 hours, that’s one killed atheon every 2 minutes and 24 seconds. So you might want to re count cause I think you either mean over the weak or only 30 times. [spoiler]nibbles crayon[/spoiler]
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2 RepliesI think it should be, after ~30 full runs (not just Atheon CP's) it should be guaranteed. Or do it like duality dungeon, where completing challenges, doing it on master, doing it flawless, gives a boost to the drop rate! Luckily i got it after 20 or so runs, but it's ridiculous for those with 100+ clears to not have it i think
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1 ReplyI'm 100% serious, give it up for a few weeks, dont touch a single raid until the next time its pinnacle. You'll get it first try because bungies algorithm will want to pull you back in with unstable levels of dopamine. This is why new players or returning players get the best drops. I'm not wearing a tin foil hat
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9 RepliesIt’s about the grind you gotta put in the work. Just gotta do the raid and stop complaining and you’ll get it. It’s that simple.
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Took me 60 runs to finally get it and I haven’t seen it drop since Meanwhile I got collective obligation on my 3rd clear, and got it again on my 5th No other raid exotic took me that many clears to get when compared to vex
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1 ReplyI feel it must be 1% with no bad luck protection. If it were 5%, the chances of not having it at 200+ runs are way too low.
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[quote]its basically the title. Vex mythoclast drops are astronomically low with barely any bad luck protection. I have seen a few guardians with 200+ clears and still nothing. I even have a friend who crossed 300 looted clears yesterday and got nothing. The drop rate needs to be tuned a little bit and implement a better bad luck protection system. Maybe make it so if you pass a certain amount of clears you get the vex as a guaranteed drop. I understand that the weapon is amazing and if it becomes more available, it can make crucible annoying but grinding a raid for 100h and not getting the raid weapon is just absurd. Sure, people can be unlucky, -blam!- happens, but being this unlucky is just absurd. Another question: what is the drop rate of this thing? i have seen articles saying that the drop rate is 5% with 0.25% increase for the first clear of the week. Others say that the drop rate is 1% with no bad luck protection. The braytech website and app say that the drop rate is around 28% (spoiler it isn't). I think the drop rate should be more clear.[/quote] Spare a thought for those still doing VoW for the pulse rifle it took me 50 full clears to get it and even more for vex it’s destiny at its core RNG (Real Nonstop Grind) or (Radom nonsense Grind) In any case keep going that’s the point effort equals reward not impatience
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Edited by Bimthurn: 7/18/2022 8:31:17 PM60 + runs and nothing. Why should anyone have to run this raid more than 10 maybe 15 times to get the weapon? If you cleared this raid more than 10 times then it was not luck that carried you thru, that is called skill. No reason to keep dragging players down wasting their time by blaming it on RNG. Fix the issue. It does not make you a better player to have run the raid over 50 times for a weapon just makes the game less enjoyable.
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7 RepliesNot that it matters, but here's my raid rng: 1k-20 Anarchy-16 Tarrabah-8 Vex-5 Collective obligation-2 I play pretty often. I dont believe the myth of "take a break and you'll have better luck" Rng is just weird like that.
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Edited by Zavala's Hair (Timelost): 7/18/2022 9:07:40 PMVex is pretty strong and is sought after because it is so powerful. If it is made too easy to acquire, then the gun will be nerfed into the ground and all that work that was put into getting it will be totally wasted. So here is was I believe is the best idea; after 100 runs, if the player has not received vex yet, the chance of vex dropping increases by 1 percent per full vog run. It must be a full run to keep the difficulty of acquiring the vex intact, while also giving players an increased chance of getting it each time. Meaning if the drop rate is at 1 percent for the first hundred runs of vog, then by 200 runs the drop rate should be 100 percent. The vex should be hard to get, but it should still be acquirable, but for people who just have bad luck basing the acquirablility on RNG is absolutely horrid. I have run Vog around 236 time now and don't intend to stop. I cannot count the number of times I have run VOG and watched as people who have only ran 30 or 40 or maybe it is their first time acquire it. The process needs some serious tweaking, please bungie, for the sake of all us bad luck people. I would appreciate it if others could chime in as well on the specific changes they believe would best help this problem. Do you agree with me, or do you think other action needs to be taken if any at all?
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I have a friend who got vex on his 62nd clear, was locked out of fatebreaker for weeks due to it and now cannot get the shadowheart to drop and is also locked out of discreptor
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I had it first time around… I’m not doing it again. I’m not doing a raid I’ve done enough times years ago.
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Edited by Docventure: 7/18/2022 1:55:30 PM100% agree. I have pretty much stopped raiding because of this. The encounters aren't cool or fun enough to make up for the total lack of a reward so after a while it feels like there's just no point. Also I can get some best-in-slot legendary weps from the Dungeon which even further makes Raiding feel not worth it.
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3 vex in 22 clears Heart shadow first clear EOT 3rd clear. Hate to hear some peeps having awful rng on those exotics…. Good luck
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Seen this drop twice on a fresh run at the weekend, was one guys 6th run and the other had previously had it twice prior (no idea on how many clears for the 2nd guy)
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28 RepliesEdited by THA_3rd_GUY: 7/17/2022 11:45:26 PMAre you doing full clears, or are you getting a checkpoint? Because the bad luck protection only works with full clears.
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4 RepliesVex dropped for me on my 7th looted clear. Didn’t even need to farm for it. You should have purchased the Premium RNG Package from the Eververse Store.
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9 RepliesWhere’s my OG Gally peeps who waited 3 years before they got it from Xur? Wasn’t me but I knew some, just saying this could go one for years lmao
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2 RepliesGot Vex on my fourth VoG clear, just got 1K today on my first ever Last Wish clear... Oh and i open two chests and got 1K twice. Yet i have all the "RNG boosting" buffs for Duality Dungeon but the Exotic Sword hasn't dropped for me yet... The RNG on these activity based exotics are so odd.
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Simple fix, don't grind it 24/7. You'll get it eventually
