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Agreed. Just a flat 30 or 40% damage buff
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  • That big of a buff would basically make it the best weapon in the game with no contest.

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  • Whisper without catalyst out damages sleeper simulant. Whisper catalyst adds 30% damage, so a similar buff isn't unreasonable for sleeper.

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  • [quote]Whisper without catalyst out damages sleeper simulant. Whisper catalyst adds 30% damage, so a similar buff isn't unreasonable for sleeper.[/quote] This is true but you also have to ADS for a few seconds to activate the perk. Those seconds are often valuable in doing additional damage. A straight 30% / 40% buff would be insane. It definitely needs a buff though.....

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  • [quote][quote]Whisper without catalyst out damages sleeper simulant. Whisper catalyst adds 30% damage, so a similar buff isn't unreasonable for sleeper.[/quote] This is true but you also have to ADS for a few seconds to activate the perk. Those seconds are often valuable in doing additional damage. A straight 30% / 40% buff would be insane. It definitely needs a buff though.....[/quote] The time you save between shots compared to Sleeper's charge time between shots way outweighs the initial time it takes to proc Whispered Breathing.

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  • 100% which is why I feel that sleeper was left behind. The whisper still remains one if the best options in the game.

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  • [quote]Agreed. Just a flat 30 or 40% damage buff[/quote] It certainly got left behind. 30-40% would be insanity though. The thing definitely needs a buff though and recently used it on a number of raids. To many better options < The merciless and the new effigy (with cat) was really good on certain bosses. I lived it vs the mind thingy on GOS

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  • No-catalyst whisper can out damage sleeper simulant. The BFG needs a huge helping of help

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  • [quote]No-catalyst whisper can out damage sleeper simulant. The BFG needs a huge helping of help[/quote] Easily ^^ the whisper is still one of the best options on certain bosses (if not the best) The sleeper was out dps'd by even my legendary crooked fang. I saw a few reddit posts saying that a certain legendary linear fusions can drop with firing line. An exotic with a catalyst shouldn't be outdone by a legendary / perk. Even high impact reserves on a legendary is still viable.

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