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originally posted in: Making the Raid Harder
11/27/2020 7:35:19 PM
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Are you failing to use common grade school level reading comprehension? I'll give the baby summary for you, because if you didn't read it correctly, you would have known by now that it wasn't about which game had harder raids. - D1 raids were incredibly simple mechanics wise, and the real challenge was staying alive to the end, as being dead put more pressure on the rest of your teammates. - D2 raids have more mechanics, but they aren't actually complicated and are rather easy to cope with. That being said, players seem bent on making these mechanics more complicated than necessary, on top of your common player incompetence - Difficulty in raids largely ends up being dependent on players. Experience makes you better, and having good game sense in general makes you better. Notice at how no point in my original post did I ever say that one game was harder than the other, and why the whole argument of one game being harder than the other never really made sense. You can't make D2 raids harder than they are, because it just simply doesn't work out for anyone when you end up shoving puzzles and not actually engaging with the raid itself. Neither game is harder, as the increased volume of players in D2 makes the cries for the raids being too hard louder than it should be, when a lot of vets from D1 or even early D2 know that it is quite the opposite, and that raids are not difficult in either game. At the end of the day, it boils down to a lack of determination on the side of the casual playerbase for immediately giving up in getting slightly better at the game and instead demanding the game be adjusted for them, even if it comes at the cost of enjoyment of a mild challenge for other players who like something that requires some degree of effort every once in a while. Also, why would you throw "son" into your reply? It makes no sense at all, because for all you know, you're young enough to be my son. Seriously, you're on the internet, and throwing words around like "kid" just doesn't work one bit.
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  • ok i took the bait. i just read your second reply. you STILL didnt make a point. WHERE do you stand on raids son??? do you like the new raid difficulty or not? if not, do you want it harder or easier. what raids did you like? why? what did you hate? why? are you on the side of making them super hard? or super simple? for CHRIST SAKE MAKE A SINGLE POINT.

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  • And fine, I'll answer this one. I always liked the raids they way they are. They are always the right amount if challenging that first run through, and aren't just a straight up farm every run after that, minus CE, because we all know that raid is a joke for the most part. I would appreciate a harder difficulty that served as a means to either get extra rewards per run or even some aesthetic rewards exclusive to it. D1 had this, and I enjoyed doing the hard mode raids because of it. D2 could definitely use the removal of revive tokens for a hard mode, because it would be a simple easy way to add some nice emblems, maybe raid armor ornaments, and all in all, make it mostly an aesthetics only alternative for raid loot. I think D2 raids are only initially complicated due to the added and increased mechanics, but it stops being difficult due to experience bringing it down to just muscle memory and getting better at it. However, from personal experience, some people are just outright awful at raids as a whole, and have no business complaining about it since they give up so easily or simply don't care to improve basic skills. At the end of the day, neither game has harder raids, because much like the souls series, it's hard your first run though, but it loses difficulty as you become a better player and it becomes rather easy. As much as one would like to just outright say one game's raids are harder than the other, that's a rather simple and shallow way to look at the situation. Neither game is harder than the other, and only the initial difficulty is greater on D2, made worse by the larger population that makes raids more complicated than it should be.

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  • I stand on what I said. I have two college degrees and read through your first reply twice now. ZERO points were made. You discussed points but no conclusions or theories were espoused. Also , are you mentally all there? Honest question, anyone that posts replies as long as yours that make them a BLOCK OF TEXT that no one wants to read definitely has issues upstairs. sorry for that insult but thats fact.

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  • You know that boasting about supposed accomplishments is meaningless on the internet, right? I can trust what you said about as far as I'm willing to throw a child. Unless you're willing to dox yourself, anything you try to bring into the conversation that relates to your real life has no bearing on how valid your opinion is. Neither is intentionally trying to fluff what you say with words you think make you sound more intellectually capable. See? It just doesn't mean anything. Say it for what it is, because that's what I did. Neither game has harder raids, and D2 only seems harder because it is mechanically heavier than D2 counterparts but is in truth, no more challenging than D1 raids, only that player incompetence is at a record all time high and that more people than ever make short, failed attempts at the raids nowadays. I said to begin with that the view on the two game's raids would be from my perspective. Otherwise, I would have started my piece with "D1/D2 raids are fundamentally harder and here is why". Is that what you thought I was doing? Because I don't blame you. Some of the dumbest people I have ever had the "privilege" of working with have talked about how many degrees they have. Yeah, that's cool and all you have an art degree, but how does that help you understand the scientific method? See? That's the kind of stuff I was thinking when dealing with other people in my classes during my college years. It's still a piece of paper, and until you can prove that the piece of paper called a diploma actually means anything, you're about as smart as any other street urchin. Especially if your piece of paper is actually an art degree. In which case, you definitely wasted your time. Unless it's like an actual art degree for animation or something, not a modern art, draw a line on a blank canvas and give some BS meaning to it art degree. Can we at least agree on that?

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  • A. i dont brag. I brought up the degree point due to your reply. In essence you brought that on yourself. B. What the f@#k is wrong with you? Why are you throwing up walls of text? NO ONE reads that shit.

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  • Reading comprehension would have helped you avoid the whole situation to begin with. You simply failed to acknowledge that the post was never about which game had harder raids, merely about what made the raids in each game "hard". People are free to read what they like, I'm not holding a gun to your head, and apparently a few people liked my initial post. Not sure why, but they did, and they are free to do so.

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