can't wait to hear your explanation.

Hunters were never op Golden gun? Lol Tether which had invis as it's only draw? Or arcstrider which has it's super as its biggest draw? This is what you claim was broken? [u]Every[/u] class has it's cheap gimmicks From sentinel gaining oveeshield and health regeneration on melee kills to strikers double nade for free to hammers massive aoe with its triple hammers or insanely long lasting super if using sunspot to devour novas having many options to gain full health to crown stormcallers never running out of super to dawnblades kills = super extended to gunslinger throwing knives and ranged super to tethers invis to the strider super each class has it's unfair or cheap tool. To claim one is broken just shows bias and is ridiculous

you're actually complaining about hammers? Sunspot? you need to stand in a sunspot so thats already irrelevant, Crown Stormcallers? Another irrelevant thing, you need to use an exotic and stormcaller is the worst super in the game. Double nades on striker for free? The only semi decent grenade on strike is pulse. Golden Gun? Seems like you forgot about Blade Barrage. Sentinel overshield from melee kill? Yeah, you need to hit someone twice at close range when they can easily one shot you with a shotgun.

[quote]you're actually complaining about hammers? Sunspot? you need to stand in a sunspot so thats already irrelevant[/quote]You're actually complaining about hunters? *insert anything you say* is irrelevant. Look how easy that was. Tri-hammers mean you barely have to aim near the enemy, sunspot allows you to toss an insane amount - big deal you need to stand in a spot, each hammer impact gains you a new one lol [quote]Crown Stormcallers? Another irrelevant thing, you need to use an exotic and stormcaller is the worst super in the game.[/quote]Not irrelevant at all lmao, another ×insert whatever you say next* is irrelevant. The super can last some 30 seconds and LOL if you think stormcaller is the worst super in the game, it's amazing if you actually use ionic blink and be evasive, I have a friend who has multiple 7th columns off using storm + crown [quote]Double nades on striker for free? The only semi decent grenade on strike is pulse.[/quote]-Blinding nades -Lightning nades You act like an extra grenade isn't that big a deal when it reality it can be a game changer, it's a massive advantage, so much so that armentarium is still considered one of the better titan exotics. [quote]Golden Gun? Seems like you forgot about Blade Barrage[/quote]. I was referring to all pre-forsaken things as that when most titan mains cried nerf on hunters. Even so how is blade barrage unfair? It's a 1hk super similar to nova bomb. [quote]Sentinel overshield from melee kill? Yeah, you need to hit someone twice at close range when they can easily one shot you with a shotgun.[/quote]Or use a sub then melee. Or sidearm then melee. Or shotgun then melee. Or use any primary then melee. You cant pretend the only way you can possibly get this melee off is by rushing a team and getting 2 melees off, youce got teammates who tag enemies, you've got weapons that can leave them 1 shot and primed for a melee. Let's cut the bs, nothing I said is "irrelevant" because you cant counter it and stop pretending solid perks like a second nade and healing + overshield for you and teammates off a melee is some unattainable goal. Every class has its gimmick. None are op compared to others. Not titans. Not warlocks. Not hunters.

flash grenades? That has a small radius. Lightning Grenades? You can very easily back off and the grenade won't do anything, it acts like it tripmine so if you see one on a wall then shoot it, its not hard

Arcstaff? That's very easy to run from and it requires you to get in close. It's easy to talk down what abilities can do, across all classes

"Arcstaff? That's very easy to run from and it requires you to get in close.", same could be said about Novawarp

oh boy where do i start? Why would you use bottom tree hammers to begin with? Standing in a sunspot? You're basically asking to be sprayed down easily, or for someone to blade barrage, novabomb, or FoH you. Stormcaller? I've never heard anyone talk about that god awful super. Its the only super in the game with a TTK and its very easy to shut down. Blade Barrage is novabomb on steroids, the novabomb animation is slow, blade barrage is fast and kills literally anything it sees, its the easiest and best super in the game. Use a sub then melee them? Use a sidearm then melee them? Use a shotgun then melee? Use a sub or sidearm in melee range against a shotgun. See what will happen. Use a shotgun then melee? Every shotgun in melee range will very easily one shot.