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9/21/2015 8:46:32 AM
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I'm guessing you were a TLW/Thorn & Shotgun user...
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  • I did use the thorn a bit, but since autorifles and secondaries were the most powerful most of the time I went that road. Besides, there is no shame in using the "op" weapons, as we know we all do. Unless of course we don't like winning.

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  • [quote]used thorn a bit [/quote] 10,000k kills with thorn isn't a bit.. You suck now because you thorn isn't as good.. Haha thorn bitch

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  • You use thorn?

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  • Edited by l cohen l: 9/21/2015 12:20:09 PM
    Well, the 'no shame' part of your post is opinionated. I didn't use Autos when Destiny first dropped, and I didn't use Thorn or TLW. I used Scouts and Pulse Rifles with a Sniper (without Final Round). It kind of sounds like you rely on that 'OP' weapon within Destiny's PvP, and now that they've balanced everything and, so far, all weapons are usable...you don't like it? That's cool, it's your opinion at the end of the day. It just doesn't make sense.

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  • No, what I don't like is the increased pace and getting killed instantly from all over the place before you know what hit you. The "no shame" part is not an opinion, it's a fact. If you don't use the best guns you're a moron.

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  • Edited by l cohen l: 9/21/2015 4:52:21 PM
    Increased pace? Hold on...you said you played during the Auto Rifle META, which was a pretty quick death up against most ARs, and even quicker if you came up against a SUROS. Then Bungie nerfed Autos into oblivion and they were hardly used (I still used my Silimar's Wrath, and I'll get to the point of that towards the end of this comment), which opened the door to Thorns two-shot to the head or TLW insanely fast TTK...and let's not even mention Shotguns such as Felwinter and Matador with Shot Package, Hammer Forged and a ballistic upgrade for even more range (on top of a pretty decent base range stat to begin with), dying got a whole lot quicker under the right circumstances. Now, Bungie has levelled everything out with all weapons. ARs have enough range and power to compete with all other Primaries, Thorn can't two-shot anymore, TLW requires actual skill, Final Round has been removed from Snipers (requires a precision hit for the bonus damage), Hand Cannons have had their range and stability cut which has led to Scouts being more dominant in their own range and Shotguns have had their bonus range perk percentages lowered, so you have to be in close quarters to actually kill someone now (based on full health). You can actually counter now, if you're skilled. The pace has definitely dropped a little. And as for your point: [quote]If you don't use the best guns you're a moron.[/quote] ...all of my KDs are in the positive, and I've never used the 'OP' weapon (Silimar's Wrath, for example, when ARs were awful. Still did pretty good with it). Your KDs are barely scraping 1.0. So, you know, your point doesn't hold up.

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  • They nerfed autos a long time ago. They have been unusable for 8 months until now. There are no op weapons any more.

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