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10/13/2023 8:13:36 AM
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180 hand cannons are trash in pvp again.
Well they've never been good to begin with. But the new range compression changes, trashed them. You gotta be able to see that on your loving spread sheets and data. They are SO useless. And no amount of "snowballing" kill dmg perks gonna help their trash range (32ish meters) and 1sec ttk...
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1 ResponderEditado por Justin68687112: 10/14/2023 11:48:27 PMI was watching Nomad's video on PVP weapons. Malfeasance landed in "very good". From the video I seen, it was surprisingly good due to such low stability and recoil, making it really easy to use. Unfortunately, other than this one exotic, 180s seem to suck right now. Which frankly, autorifle meta is annoying cause any noob can land shots with an autorifle. Of course "you can land shots easily with anything", but no, actually, some weapons are more skilled. That and flinch, when I think of Surous Regime or Ammit, I think of a very unskilled pvp player.
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1 ResponderPvP trash, game trash, bungo trash , what u want ? Lazy company , pay and relax
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Good. Glorified sidearms.
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3 RespostasAGAIN? They never were Magnificent Howl was
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They need more range.
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2 RespostasIt's simple they should just be deleted from the game. 18Os are basically sidearms
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eliteg🦾🟠🛕👎 - 4/16/2026 10:50:35 PM
Yep I've never seen them be good. Your post made me check my vault for my most kills 180 and its a 7th Seraph Officer Revolver with Full Bore & Accurized and trash perks and MW. Every once in a while I go and try 180s again and its like 1 game maybe good with Survivors or Trust.. and then you hate yourself for testing them. I actually think they might not be fixable without destroying 140s and 120s.. so then Bungie could experiment.. and go Last Word on them and make them fun hipfire type weapons instead.. thats how I would attempt to make them relevant.. cause you buff the range and thats it they will take over from the rest.. -
A range buff would help
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1 ResponderWith one damage perk you can Three Tap any resilience (i think).
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1 ResponderI remember my Survivor’s Epitaph was pretty decent back when I used it. WTH did they do to the 180s?
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1 ResponderThey've never really been good.
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2 Respostasthe range is decent, the problem is the ttk, they should change the rpm to 200
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6 RespostasYou weren’t around when Luna’s/NF came out were you?
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8 RespostasThey were actually good once during Forsaken Era believe it or not.
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This isn't true. I've been having fun with my adept version for the Word of Crota. Malfeasance isn't terrible either.
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Survivors epitaph with kill clip, trust with explosive payload, posterity/ikelos with Ramage. 180s are great
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1 ResponderPosterity Full Bore Accurized Rounds Surplus Gutshot straight Range masterwork You Are welcome
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Grind out a Survivors Epitaph with range MW, Ranged barrel otption, rapid hit and KC. It’s a three tap monster and catches a lot people off guard
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Good! They are not a real hand cannon….
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4 RespostasThey need a damage buff.
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Editado por Phil__Boss: 10/14/2023 12:20:37 AMBy themselves they are, but they have potential. Loving word of Crota with sword logic, it's pretty great in PvP. They could use a range buff for sure, though
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1 ResponderIt's just that most of them have like 20-30 range at base
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They need to make 180s into 190s like they made 110 hcs into 120s
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1 ResponderI would love a 180 rpm buff in pvp.
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1 ResponderThey are receiving a range buff next season. It was stated some time ago now. They don't plan to make them "meta" but formidable.
