Ok, wtf kind of matchmaking is it that y'all want so badly. They've literally changed and cycled through every possible matchmaking base, and you're STILL crying about it. Please explain what they should do, and exactly how to do it.

Because create a proper MM for a game such as D2 is really problematic due the complex and multifaceted nature of the game itself and the heterogeneity of its population. Is simply something that can't be helped.

Bungie lead-devs either don't know what algorithms are - or they don't know how to code/use them. There's no other explanation. And we see this across the board. Just look at PVE loot. RNG? LOL umm no, it's not.

2 words. They don't care.

[quote]This weekend trials was just so bad, it shouldn't be this difficult for a company with so much experience.[/quote] 3 reasons. 1. Proper PvP matchmaking would require the good players to play other good players, and the good players want b roll for YouTube videos that make them look like heroes, not competitive games where they pull out clutch victories. 2. Poor matchmaking has inflated the egoes of a lot of a lot of otherwise mediocre players and their fragile self esteems can't handle finding out that they, in fact, are only slightly above or slightly below average. 3. Because PvP has been garbage for so long, a LOT of active players don't go in there sans for seasonal challenges, bounties, and the occasional weapon farm. The population isn't healthy or consistent enough for good matchmaking. 4. Since no bounties, seasonal challenges, or weapon farming require wins, and many of them require you to equip something from outside the meta, many players go in not giving a crap what their KD is, or their win %, or even wanting to play by the rules of the game mode, which ruins it for other players. This game's PvP has always been crafted like a carnival game. Most serious PvP games have way different things that encourage players to do well, and to seek to play other players who do well. In a good PvP game, you play for prestige and rank. In this game, they favor lopsided games so it looks good on YouTube and Twitch. All the serious PvP players gave moved on to real PvP games, and all that's left here are people who favor the lopsided games that make them look good. That's never going away. Bungie painted themselves into a corner that they can never get out of.

Go woke, go broke ...

Remember when you entered halo 3's multiplayer menu and push X to bring up advanced matchmaking options to prioritise certain things like skill, connection and microphones? Good Times.

Because they tried to cater to cry babies too much. Trials should have stayed card based with fireteam size balancing (not facing a 3 stack against 3 solos) Nothing less nothing more No Bs sKiLl BaSeD MaTcHmAkInG that is just not working especially in a game where skill = what weapon/build you are using on top of the thousands of account recoveries having biaised stats.

Bungie is hellbent on using SBMM with peer to peer. I don't know why the Randy's here thought that would lead to better connections.

they need to remove duo queue, I think its makes it so bad for 3 player team. You either queue solo or as 3.

The problem is they keep trying to fix problems for the bottom % and I’ll give it to them it’s good that they are trying but the system was better before fireteam based match making and it was better with card based matchmaking. They are just going to continue to try but it won’t make the game better for bad players it will just make it worse for everyone.