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12/12/2020 7:24:14 PM
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Heavy machine guns are in a horrible state atm
Patently useless for boss dps... their are better add clear options... all but one or two exotics are garbage in crucible... just sad
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Run a shotty for yellow bar enemies and sniper for ranged shots in your first two slots but have Lead From Gold on both. Run a masterworked lmg of your choice. Put double lmg scavengers/finders on your armor. Use heavy for trash mobs and enjoy your endless supply of orbs for supers. I'm telling you, this setup is fun as hell.[spoiler] lol what primary?[/spoiler]
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not the best rolls but it's not bad either: https://imgur.com/a/55yAOaY
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5 RespostasI miss 21% delirium like a lost limb.
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Yup, they even get outgunned but primaries in crucible. They have decent range but are easily flinched and have trouble winning gun fights. Outside of exotics they have no place right now. Even for ad clear they can be outmatched by many other options. Thunderlord, heir apparent and xeno are pretty the only worth while lmgs. The new raid one is the best legendary but even that doesn't feel good enough to use for any end game content.
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Who would ever want to go against a single target with a Heavy maching gun? When Stallone or Schwarzenegger wave this kind of gun, it is about the masses and big boom. Why do you want to be different, pitiful Guardian? :xd Jokes aside, I used to play either Hammerhead or 21% Delirium for roaming planets and Strikes and I miss both of them like mad. The only one that I partially like is the Seraph Heavy machine gun. But when I look at my playtime, I think I did play for half an hour with the Thunderlord outside of when it was about bounties. That's also a way to retire an entire archetype of weapons. Take out the good ones, do not replace with same quality. Done.
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Heir apparent is fun to use. The boss dps is good, ad clear is great, and the overshield is a solid perk. I don't use it on pvp.
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Wtf? Sounds like you’re just bad.
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My SAW and thunderlord disagree
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Editado por LiamCDM: 12/15/2020 1:22:28 AMWhat? HMGs aren't DPS weapons. They're serve the purpose of ad clear; particularly in endgame PvE. They're also perfectly fine in PvP. The new raid HMG is basically the new Hammerhead.
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I’m going to test a witherhord/SaW combo on Taniks... I’m curious what damage I can put out with that.
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3 RespostasThis is that slippery slope that leads to power creep. I agree that Heavy machine guns are not in the best of places, but they’re not unusable. There’s just a handful of better options. People play the game in such a rush all the time that they only want to use the most optimized weapon loadout. So any weapon not doing the absolute most DPS is never used. You don’t have to play that way. You can use machine guns if you want. You just may not one-phase a boss.
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They have always been for mob clear tho? If you want one for dps Xenophage or however you spell it is actually amazing boss dps
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Zeno is awesome dps I keep up with anarchy
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3 RespostasThey’re not meant for dps. They’re meant for ad clear.
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The raid HMG with reconstruction and dragonfly is pretty great man. I would suggest trying to get your hands on one.
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the new raid machine gun with reconstruction is god like IMO
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2 RespostasFor PVE: SAW with Vorpal+Spec mod OR AP-Rounds+Mulligan+Spec mod decent against boss and ad clear. Vorpal for more damage against boss+champs or AP+Mulligan to return ammo for longer shooting. SAW+Witherhoard+Ikelos SMG is some combo with auto-loaders or hunter dodge. Works in PvE and Gambit and witherhoard kills spawn warmind cells when seraph weapon in hand and adds that DPS. PvP: id rather use sword for just 3P peeking, but raid mg propably or thermal for luls if you have stability with quickdraw+snapshot. Melts fast if you hit, but terrible on ammo. Xeno still king in pve and pvp, but sometimes you just want to use something different.
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Xenophage is the only good lmg for dps, wish they added other lmg’s for boss dps
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3 RespostasEditado por GalaxySpider: 12/14/2020 8:16:17 AMHeavy =/= Boss DPS, for some cases. LMGs and Rockets are meant for crowd control and never were an option for Boss DPS (except for very exceptions during tjis franchises lifespan) and they perform better than any special or primary here, justifying their existence. Making LMGs DPS monsters would mean you could almost one shot every regular enemy including majors and other guardians. Combined with the high ammo reserves and mag sizes, every other weapon type in the heavy slot would be pointless then. It's called Power Creep.
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pretty good IMO but okay
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I got the new raid MG. One with rampage that does alright in PvP and one with Dragonfly that is an ad clearing machine. MGs occupy a weird space but I think they're alright.
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3 RespostasThe raid machine gun with reconstruction, zen moment, and backup mag is amazing. It’s not quite Hammerhead but it’s pretty close.
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They should bring back the trinity. Abaddon Nova Mortis Thunderlord Give them a nice buff in PVE. PvP I think they are in a good place.
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The ammo economy makes it worthwhile to use, but i think that they would be better when used with a champion mod
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1 ResponderMy saw with clown cartridge, vorpal weapon, and global reach on my gear strongly disagree. There is however no place in the game where clearing ads is required. So I give you that.
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Editado por Turt: 12/14/2020 8:35:06 AMmg’s are for when a sword wont work because its too far away.
