Holy hell, these forums are toxic. Anger about Shadowkeep delays. Anger about dev comments. Anger about complicated quests or grindy objectives. Anger about the game not being built to your exact specifications. Anger about not having enough bright dust when most people took a multi-month break in Y1 and didn't bulk up stores. I get that there are frustrating things, but can't we just discuss fixes civilly and go back to space magicking each other? Even if you don't like the things we have to do, at least we HAVE things to do! Y1 had nothing to grind, lame PvP, lame raids (Leviathan excluded IMO), weak PvE, and way heavier microtransactions. I feel like an outsider looking at these forums vs any Destiny subreddit, or even the damn Twitter comments would see two very different games. I for one would be a lot more excited to try the game I hear about from r/destinythegame, not bungie.net [spoiler]Moderator edit: This thread has been updated with tags that are more appropriate. Feel free to private message the moderator who moved your post, link to topic, for further clarification about why this topic was moved.[/spoiler]