Heavy is such a detriment for sure, and supers are also a problem mostly bc of super mods, and how unkillable some are (aka bottom tree striker). Hopefully once Shadowkeep comes around, super damage resistance will be adjusted. I thought maybe if they decided to keep supers in comp, just make it so everyone can only get one super a match, how they use said super, is up to the player. Heavy can definitely be taken out no question tho lmao.

Heavy and super are extremely annoying... but they serve a purpose (mostly breaking up campers) Here’s what needs to change: Heavy should be removed from survival Heavy weapons should get about half as much ammo as they currently do. Supers need resistance reduced to D1 levels (so that adaptive frame snipes can kill them unless they run max armor) That’s it.

In my personal opinion I think comp should have a completely different play style to other modes, since trials isn’t coming back anytime soon. Although I doubt my opinion will be shared by the majority of players. I’ll put it in a spoiler. [spoiler]Since it’s comp, it would make sense if it was more skillbased, right? Well currently that’s hard to achieve with certain weapons outclassing others entirely along with a fast ttk meaning that it’s more about what weapon you have than how good you are and who sees who first. As an example I can be however good I want with an auto rifle but anyone with a last word will likely kill me faster. First step to achieve this goal would be to make the ttk slower in comp. A slower ttk not only means the game will be more about skill and less about who saw who first, but it would also make it easier to balance weapons since they have more room to work with. Imagine how difficult it is balancing weapons when some can kill in less than a second? The second step would be locking out certain weapons that would be too much of an advantage for those who have them, this is so that those weapons can stay powerful in other activities without bungie needing to change them only for comp. To go along with those changes that lean towards more skillful play, special and heavy ammo would also need changes. While special weapons aren’t as op as some people might claim, they are still much better than primaries and with the amount of special that goes around in crucible you can practically use a special the whole game and never have to worry about ammo. To me this is a problem, as it goes against the name “special weapon” since they aren’t special in the slightest. I think the best course of action for this new comp would be to only allow you to spawn with special at the beginning of the game. After that the only ways to get special is to kill opponent and pick theirs up like how it works currently, except the amount of ammo you pick up would be reduced. Alongside that instead of heavy ammo spawning every couple minutes it would be special ammo, sort of like how it worked in d1 where everybody who’s near it and on the same team of whoever picks up special ammo will get a few shots. So what about heavy? Well again I’d think it would be better to go back to the d1 system, where instead of heavy spawning every couple minutes it would only spawn once or twice a game in something like control or clash, but in round based modes there would be a heavy round halfway through. This would eliminate the current issue of every comp game almost exclusively being a fight for heavy and whoever gets it first wins the game most of the time. As for supers, I think the use of super mods should be restricted so that they can’t be used at all, or can’t stack. As I believe this creates too much of an advantage against players who don’t use all super mods, since comp should be more about skill and less of who has the better gear I think this would be a good change. Of course with the upcoming super changes it’s hard to be sure what to change about supers since I don’t know what exactly will be changed and how. Well those are my ideas to make a better comp, they need a little work and I’m sure most will disagree but I’m certain that those changes (or at least some of them) would lead to a comp more about skill which is what it should be about, although if trials comes back then these changes should definitely be reserved for that.[/spoiler]

All of the people saying to go play cod don't realize they are playing it with destiny. All because of a thematic difference lol. I'd rather see supers and abilities take brains to use, and have them be more frequent. Risk reward, and a lack of combat options is what's missing I find. Heavy is kinda okay to me except for machine guns which were always braindead lasers. That said they moved oneshots out of heavy only so weeee. Why care about gameflow. Pretty sure I've replied to this before but still.

If this was a unique Competitive mode I can see how it would be a welcome relief.

Then you still run into Jotunn and grenade launchers, personally I'd love an option that's your base character with the broken white weapons.

There should be like “what do you want to ban” type of thing at the beginning of comp. Like people from both teams decide which thingns they want banned then everyone would get one minute to appropiate their loadout

I think come should be like trails of Osiris. Simple tdm I think supers are so strong in d2 that they should be very limited but not disabled but heavy should be one round like trials then maybe people would be honorable and wave on heavy

Add a pick and ban for items subclasses and certain exotics then make matches reward more points to compensate for the longer match time remove all super mods and have a mercy rule where you lose less points if half your team leaves during a match

Less prevalent, definitely. Not removed completely.

Remove all competitve gameplay, crucible became a shit show after they introduced Trials back in D1.

Wait, you waste your time daily? Shocker.

Bungie just needs to introduce a “strictly gunplay” competitive mode where Supers and Heavy are not available. On the other hand, I would also luv to see a mode where one could equip more than one Exotic armor and weapon.