I browse these forums from time to time, amazed at the language and sheer anger that fills it. Today I saw yet another link to some disgruntled Youtuber saying how done they are with Bungie and this videogame that we all play and enjoy. Now, normally I'd just shrug this off as yet another bandwagoner jumping onto the hate train, knowing damn well that they'll be back come next expansion, patch, teaser trailer, etc... Mainly because having the word "Destiny" in the title gets them clicks. But I'm starting to see something else emerging, something much more troubling in the entire gaming community.
It's the language being used. The words "love," "deception," "disappointment." These are incredibly strong words to be using towards something which is designed to be an escape from the real world. These are the words that one would use when talking about an ex who cheated on them, or a promotion that you got passed over for. These are words that people use when facing real problems, devastating ones that scar you and shape who you are. Not words which are to be used when talking about a -blam!-ing videogame.
When the Star Wars prequels came out, I heard the same language. "George Lucas killed Star Wars!" Yeah, the guy who created the franchise killed it. The man who gave us Jedi and Sith killed it. Replace a few words and you get to where we are today. As for the streamers and Youtubers, they go wherever the views are, so please stop giving them so much credit.
I'm talking to you, the angry Destiny, COD, Battlefront, you name it player. You have a problem. Now it may just be related to age and that you haven't had real world experiences with loss or dissapointment, but what you are demonstrating by ranting and raving about something as trivial and dumb as a videogame shows a complete lack of emotional stability. And, when it comes to the streamer/Youtube folks, it sounds to me like they really, REALLY need to sit down and rethink their lives.
I enjoy videogames, I have since I watched my Dad speedrun Super Mario Brothers on a tiny TV when I was a tiny me. But I've never gotten so physically upset that I scream and cry about something which is built to be pure entertainment. If something doesn't entertain me, I find something else. It's that simple. I have other games, or I have a sketchbook, or I have Spotify. The list goes on and on.
In summary, gamers nowadays are a passionate bunch, I get that. But it seems as though we've crossed a line that I fear we cannot return from. Emotional attachment to a video game is okay when it comes to immersion, but when you act as though Bungie showed up to the school dance, stole your date, and proceeded to marry them, you come across as irrational human beings. Is Destiny 2 perfect, hell no. But is anything? My main point, stop investing so much emotional and probably physical energy into something that you don't enjoy. It's unhealthy and makes you seem...a bit off.
And for the Sweet and Fluffy Lord's sake, stop listening to Youtubers and streamers. They depend on hype and other people's work to pay the bills. Think for yourself and realize that they go with whatever subreddit is popular at the time. You are and always will be the best barometer for what you enjoy.
EDIT: When the hell did this late night rant blow up?
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As a really old guy (76) I agree with you. There are many players who take gaming way too seriously. I have a middle aged friend who was actually my mentor in Destiny 1 who no longer plays because he can’t take failure. We played thousands of hours together until he got upset with what he perceived to be his weakness as a player and he quit. He rage quit. Not once, but many times. He wiped out everything in his inventory again and again. After he can back he constantly complained about losing all his stuff. We would actually joke about him holding the record for quitting. I think he is emblematic of many players and people in general. Their idiosyncrasies are just exacerbated by the pressure of trying to succeed in Destiny or whatever game they happen to be playing. I throughly enjoy Destiny and am astounded by the level of nastiness on these forums. I think Destiny is a real bargain when you considered the value. Where else could someone enjoy this many hours for the amount of money spent? Fortunately for me I’ve found a clan with mostly middle age players who are all very calm and just enjoy playing together and helping each other level up. I hope you have too. Never stop gaming!
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14 RespostasI'm 49 next week and I can confirm that George Lucas did indeed kill Star Wars with the prequels. For the generation that queued around the block for tickets in '77 anyway.
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By the reference to your Dad playing Super Mario I'd say you're not as old as you're pretending to be anyway. When I was a kid we went fishing and hunting in our spare time. At least until we got old enough to do drugs and drink with our girlfriends. But yeah. Even though I agree with what you are saying I can recognize the irony in that wall of text.
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3 RespostasI think you sir are putting far too much thought into this and you’re just as guilty as those you are accusing
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I know you mean well but those words don’t mean what they used too. I’d almost go so far as to say that the English language adapts different meanings for words based on the medium of which they’re used on. “Loving” a game is hardly even close to finding “the one” or even elicits an emotional response like your referring at all. For instance I “loved” the Beatles doesn’t mean I was emotionally attached to them in that way. Then again... given the age gap and what I used to see of screaming fans maybe nothing has changed at all.
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2 RespostasA certain percentage of the posters that seem to have an agenda to destroy this game are on the payroll of other companies trying to gain market share. If I don’t like a game I go play something else, who else would have the time to waste on a smear campaign against a video game? D2 has room for improvement no doubt and we all expect a game like this to evolve over time, so legitimate feedback is appreciated and helpful but anything else is just propaganda or bored and possibly immature folks.
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1 ResponderI agree. I think a lot of people have achieved a connection with this franchise that they haven't had much exposure to in real life. Processing that is difficult for them, as for many I think Destiny is actually their first real girlfriend/boyfriend. Their first love, and they put it on a pedestal (as most people do with their first love).
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You rant about players being upset about a video game but you’re just upset bc they bash the game you “love”. Who cares, let them bash it. If you like it good for you. Everyone is entitled to their opinion no matter how much we disagree with it. Nowadays we are so quick to label people that disagree with us, it’s ridiculous
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Editado por drvankmen: 12/13/2017 7:26:52 PMolder human? your dad speedran the original smb? how old are you like 25? your post had a good theme you did not deliver very compelling arguments, and you certainly did not consider your audience. maybe in another decade or two.
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Let me summarize your entire post, “Chill, it’s just a game.” And I can totally agree with you, although I get angry sometimes I come to face the reality that what I’m doing is for entertainment and not for competitiveness.
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Thank you sir for putting my feelings into words for the community. Couldn’t have said it better.
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[quote]A little advice from an older [b]human[/b]...[/quote]
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2 RespostasDid someone read the whole post?
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Some people just miss the point.
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That's human nature. People get emotionally attached to lots of things. Movies, books, sports, hobbies, etc. Why would video games be any different? I've seen more toxic college football fans. See "Happy Valley" documentary.
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I completely agree man
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Right on the head 100% bud. SOUP FOR YOU!
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1 ResponderHow dare people be passionate about their hobbies and dislike corporate greed? Why would anyone ever say they "love" what they do in their free time? And why would they "hate" when their hobbies are deliberately made less enjoyable for more of their money? I guess it's only deception if you're lied to by someone you care about and the government, business, and other systems don't count. I know they say respect your elders and all but you sure as hell don't seem to know anything beyond your own perspective.
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I used to hate Destiny. I was disappointed when vanilla came out and it quickly became clear that this massive AAA title I'd been looking forward to so much was clearly not going to be the grand adventure that they advertised. I lost hope when it became clear that Dark Below wasn't going to fix it in the slightest and then I regained a tiny bit of hope when House of Wolves at least took a tiny little step in the right direction... ...That tiny bit of hope was then promptly shattered when I heard what they were charging for Taken King and some twit said that people would throw money at the screen. Didn't touch the game again for almost a full year. But then one day I decided that I was tired of hating Destiny. I reinstalled it, went back through the year 1 content and finished most of the year 2 content just in time for Rise of Iron. Destiny has tons of problems and I've had to come to terms with the fact that it will never be allowed to reach it's full potential and become what I'd like it to be, but you know what? I still have fun with it. As long as it continues to entertain me then I'll keep on playing it. That's my bottom line.
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This is without a doubt probably the best post ive seen on here for the past couple of years
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Lol I like how you have to express that you are a human......wait now I am suspicious.
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I played the crap out of vanilla,nightfalls gave exotics always, and you went to orbit if your team wiped,you got amazing gear in the raid,im talking vex mc,hawkmoon,gally,quest items,thorn,super good advice,pocket infinity and when you dropped stuff people were stoked,or they would rage quit but thats all gone,btw im a good age and know when somthings a bust,i do care about destiny and i wish i am proved wrong, but yes its only a game its just that i had such a great time playing,activision and bungie hates fun,PEACE
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2 RespostasI think i can help with a couple words you seem to take offense to: A: deceived. that word was used because players WERE deceived relating to the XP trick/deception they employed to manipulate microtransactions. When the word used actually describes the behavior, it's actually appropriate. B: Disappointed. When people are deceived by a person or, say, a developer they have always held in high regard, it can lead to disappointment. again, word seems appropriate. C: People say they "love" something. I love sushi. or is that an inappropriate use of the word. The rest of your paragraph up there seems to indicate you know EXACTLY how words like these should be used and expect others to do the same. Perhaps you could publish a list of appropriate words players can use to describe their feelings about video games. Then, if you can get Bungie to adopt them, we can just do away with all freedom of speech on the forums and refer to your guidance and leadership. You seem to have everything figured out and aren't afraid to share it with others. Must be nice
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3 RespostasI tried to make this point on a different forum recently and failed. The group you are talking to sees video games almost like a basic human right. I’m no psychiatrist but I’m of the opinion there are some deep seeded identity issues tied up with the satisfaction from on screen accomplishments in many who get so emotional over gaming.
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Thank you! (I'll leave it there... I have so much to say - it's killing me to not scroll through and argue with half of these commentors - but it would fall upon the blind eyes of those who read what they want and believe what they want without critical thinking or logic). So, thank you!
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Editado por King Wizard: 12/12/2017 8:58:03 PMI think maybe YOU are attaching too much significance to the words people are choosing to use. I 'love' french fries. These cold french fries sure are 'disappointing'. I feel like the guy who served these 'deceived' me when he said they were fresh. Does that sound like a jaded lover to you? Your problem, like a lot of people around these forums, is that you speak down to the entire community as if it is some group that you, yourself, are not a part of. Binary thinking, blanket statements, and injecting your own opinion into what you try to pass off as objective advice gets us NOWHERE. Now go home, dad.