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Editado por panzerfaust: 1/1/2017 4:36:21 PM
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Well, you can always rent a VPS in a provider who supplies anti-DDoS capabilities and get a IPSEC vps running and make sure your gaming traffic goes through the VPN ;) That's what people start to do.... :)
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  • Two things: Using a VPN to play will cause lag, but if you don't mind lagging, go for it. Many of the botnets used in gaming DDOS attacks are capable of flooding an IP address at over 50 GB per second, so unless your VPN server can handle that much traffic, their DDOS protection really won't do you any good. Even if the VPN server blocks a specific port/traffic, incoming requests still have to be resolved and a DDOS will overwhelm it. Anyone selling DDOS protection is really selling you snake oil.

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  • Editado por panzerfaust: 1/1/2017 8:28:57 PM
    VPN doesn't cause lag, a slight increase in latency, of course, but then again it is negligible if you consider playing against someone from West Coast or South America if you are located in Europe. Regarding the snake oil, sure you can. You just mentioned 1/19th of the greatest attack ever recorded. Still my home connection will be doing fine, and retribution will be on the way within minutes. Though DDoS'ed is lame (specially to gain advantage on a game), with some luck your operator might also be smoked and you gain nothing from it. As long as my connection and my computing power are safe, retribution is always at hand! Like they used to say: 'mess with best, die like the rest'.

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  • So I'm a little confused, but it sounds like you're agreeing with me? What I got from your post was that using a VPN increases latency, which is lag, although granted, nothing like the normal lag we see in destiny on a regular basis. The other thing, is that although the DDOS attacks used in gaming are relatively small, they are capable of knocking your VPN server off-line which will kick you out of the game, although it's not attacking your modem/router directly. Is that pretty much right?

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  • Editado por panzerfaust: 1/1/2017 8:55:20 PM
    [quote]What I got from your post was that using a VPN increases latency, which is lag, although granted, nothing like the normal lag we see in destiny on a regular basis.[/quote] Well yes, but I didn't got a VPN virtual machine on the other side of the continent neither in another continent. It's actually 17ms away from me provided by corporate infra-structure from my ISP/employer. Trust me, there's no lag... and 17 ms... is to be neglected. [quote]The other thing, is that although the DDOS attacks used in gaming are relatively small, they are capable of knocking your VPN server off-line which will kick you out of the game[/quote] Well, assuming you would hit computational power, sure, it has only 1 vcpu and 1024Mb of memory on low tier ceph storage. But I hardly believe you would it computational resources. As for filling the data pipes, hardly with a 'small DDoS'. You would need to blackout a huge provider which is also an international data carrier. Still, retribution would be swift and quick (and would also include 2 possible innocents, the -blam!-s playing with you on a trials match). There's juice for everyone! Also some cake...

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  • A corporate VPN similar to what you use would probably require a much larger attack to interrupt your service, but for most people, their distance to, and the capacity of their VPN server is probably much less ideal.

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  • [quote]A corporate VPN similar to what you use would probably require a much larger attack to interrupt your service, but for most people, their distance to, and the capacity of their VPN server is probably much less ideal. [/quote] Actually a small attack would do, because though the VPN gateway has far more bandwidth than the link connecting me to it, so that's the point of failure there. This would happen if the 'snake oil' failed, which I doubt. Israeli's at Allot know what they do.

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  • Well if it worked, your entire fire team would need that protection, because they'll just boot the other players leaving you in a 1 V 3 situation in trials. It seems like if they could stop DDOS attacks, companies like Sony, Microsoft, Netflix etc. would be able to prevent themselves from being attacked. Personally, anything that's offered to me as an end-user that promises a measure of DDOS protection, I tend to take with a grain of salt.

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  • [quote] Personally, anything that's offered to me as an end-user that promises a measure of DDOS protection, I tend to take with a grain of salt.[/quote] 100% agreed there. End users are screwed there. Nevertheless operators should be able to mitigate them. Sure if you get nailed you might be out of service for some time, but even if you get targeted for a week non-stop, you don't stay down the whole week, your operator will mitigate it and get you serviced after some time ;) Personal opinion, DDoS'ers are plain terrorists, they should be held accountable as such. This is actually one reason for people to promote P2P, from the game studio point of view, saves them a lot of trouble dealing with DDoS'ers ;) That's why I admire Blizzard, even though they get grunted hard sometimes, they do handle it quite well considering the pounding they take sometimes.

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  • Editado por jnikoley: 1/2/2017 1:52:15 AM
    [quote]Personal opinion, DDoS'ers are plain terrorists, they should be held accountable as such.[/quote] I agree 100% To bad we're lucky they sometimes get a temp restriction, when they should be getting jail time.

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  • They do, since 2011 that several scriptie kiddies from the Anonymous terrorist organization have been jailed. Lately another one from eSports (Call of Duty top ranking player). Others have been fined in ~200.000 $US. Eventually they will get nailed and punished. The internet/cyberspace is now a war zone, it won't take long until it's going to be militarized and people get caught. In my days (mid/late 90's, the Toxyn days, http://toxyn.org/) things were different, people didn't played DDoS, people infiltrated and hacked hard. This Anonymous idiots instead of buying zero day exploits should actually be capable of producing them... We live in a world of posers... that's the truth.

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