Does anyone actually say 'baffle' outside of the Internet?

It befuddles my mind to think that there are such words being used.

What this boils down to is just wanting to have fun. I know people who are way better than me. They don't want to feel like they're entering into an organized tournament everytime they get on to play. Sometimes they just wanna jump on with friends, have a good time, and use whatever weapons they want. They want to be able to go into crucible and have a fun time and win matches as well as lose the occasional match without being forced to enter in with a full fireteam in order to win. With the way SBMM works it forces good players to either try their absolute hardest in every match, use the same guns every match, and load in with a full fireteam almost 24/7. If you don't do that you're pretty much going to have the odds against you. It takes the fun out of the game when every game is placing you against super tryhards. Especially when some people are just naturally good at PVP. It basically punishes you for being good.

[/quote] They want to be able to go into crucible and have a fun time and win matches as well as lose the occasional match [quote] [/quote] But removing it means, the rest of the population now loses most games, with only the occasional win... Which in my case, as a less skilled pvp player happens already.... and you wish to make it worse ??

Hell yes I want to play with less skilled players all the time. Because why not, stop trying to put people down with your idea that we will destroy some because I want to have a fun and enjoyable match of destroying some people because I myself have been put into too many losing matches and it's getting tiring. I'd love to be on the winning side for once just to see what it feels like, because of Bungies sbmm has prevented me from ever winning more matches. I have been in so many losing matches because games where lagged or I was fill to the losing team. Sorry to get you upset but I am just tired of the same matches outcome. I'm also tired of carrying a losing team while being top of the leaderboard, and the game giving me terrible players against full teams I'm just saying there needs to be consistency with which type of players your giving me, but Bungie is giving me players with no thumbs most matches and I'm practically carrying some losing teams when I decide to go full try hard load out mode

Unskilled below average IB player and out of 14 matches maybe lost 5 or so. Im not even sure what the objective was to stay with a group at flag posts or run solo like a headless chicken. Losing did suck kinda and I started to wonder how those others felt and if the matchmaking put me with the winning due to my connection or what metric.

TripleWreck has a video on that argument, he doesn't want every match to be sweaty. Welcome to what average players feel every match unless sbmm is there. Granted we need connection fixed or improved but sbmm should be dialed back anytime the player base drops

I believe I can elaborate on this. What that person more than likely meant was that they want to play a good game where it doesn't feel like you're being steamrolled. Imagine jumping into an Iron Banner game when you just want to solo a match or two and get decent loot while at the same time contributing towards your team. Now picture that your team is just a bunch of randoms who just want to play the match and the enemy team is a well-coordinated clan that has endgame armor and weapons that could be described as falling into the meta category. Basically, your average try-hard match that you'd expect from Iron Banner or Trials. When you jump into a regular Control, Clash or even a Classic 6v6 game and end up dealing with that where you feel like you can't enjoy a decent win or loss because you keep going against an entire clan or group, it gets old real fast. A casual and decent match, regardless of the win or loss, should feel like you can play however you want and not feel like you're being penalized for not meeting up to skill expectations. Kinda like Rumble. This is all the more reason why a ranked playlist for the more hardcore PvPers is a must as it can help put both types of players out of each others strangling distance. Teams that wanted to brush up on their team coordination would be able to pit themselves against other teams instead of going full-on pubstomping on the regular Crucible lobbies and players who want to just play a match or do bounties could do so without having to worry that the Olympic Gaming and Crossfit team from Sweden would jump in. You'd hear less complaints and it would be easier for the Bungie dev team to figure out which actual weapons need to be buffed or nerfed since they want to be more serious in regards to the competitive multiplayer aspects of Destiny.