Could someone provide the link to where Bungie addressed the loot system, please? I'm not able to find anything about it. All I remember reading about (and able to find) referenced Vendor/Faction packages and Legacy Engrams having a significantly reduced chance to reward repeat items. I don't recall seeing anything regarding raid drops or new exotics.

17 Three of coins over the past day, 2 exotics dropped, did the raid, got 1 rocket launcher at Golgoroth then 1pr legs that were worse than I already have despite having 20 mouldering shards at Oryx. But hey the Bungie fanboys will suck upto them and say there's nothing wrong.

I was more intrigued by the fact that they didn't say a word about the bans they said were going to be handed out to trials cheaters. Especially after they went into the forums and were telling people they would be doing it.

Why hasn't the sprint glitch and inviting people puts [i]you[/i] in [i]their[/i] fireteam randomly - been addressed? lol

I think that's it pretty obvious now that a year in and the only reason destiny gained popularity is because of a lack of other compelling options. 3 other aaa games comes out and Destiny's player base folds like a deck of cheap cards. The campaign was better than vanilla but the end game was crap this expansion, who what went wrong? Trying to balance 3 of coins but initially failing to realise that players could and would farm it for all the exotics in the game. 3 of coins also got nightfall rewards nerf ed to the point that strange coins were a good drop. Also the light level system while good initially and has more longevity than the etheric light system but only gave more and more incremental gains and actually made gear less special to get. Oh I just did a raid and got a 304 fusion that's ok but I already have a 306 sniper I guess I'll infuse it and make my other ok gear a bit higher light. Also the higher ll you got the less frequent gear drop at higher ll and the gains became more incremental making the rewards become less worth than the time spent getting them. The ll system also intoduced double double rng. A roll to see if you get a drop a roll to see what gear you get but on top of that rng determines the ll of the gear. Making it harder to get drops that actually increase your ll. On top of that the smart loot system doesn't work. I wonder if they actually changed it. And there is the things that don't even make any sense. No nf matchmaking for 290 ll activity because it's too hard for pugs to complete. But then they matchmaker the exotic sword quests final stile and that's at 300 ll. Then they also matchmake the chaparone quest final strike at 300 ll. Then they nerf the weapon parts and strange coins and nerf faction rep so it's impossible to get more than .5 of a level without burning motes or other consumables then they nerf the motes. The end game became too focused on extending grind. That's the only conclusion I can come up with. They panicked when the saw they were releasing next to fallout 4 halo 5 and cod and a. Then the went too far to increase player time in game. There are less and less people on lfg site. That's noticeable. Friends lists are empty again. Last week I spent more time trying to put together an lfg raid team than actually playing the game. The festival of the lost was fun, for about 2 nights but then they got greed and intoduced microtransactions. Did the event need to go on for 2 weeks? Guess it did to get deej another ivory handled ass scratcher. The tone of the bwu was terrible. Well guess what we nerfed everything but hey we got ours so -blam!- you guys. Deej out for another vacation aka finding a new job Believe the forums guys. Destiny is dying

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like this.

Almost makes me not want to waste time on the raid either lower drops than I have or none at all and im sick of antiquated runes dropping at the bosses on hard mode instead of weapon or armor.

RNG 2.0 being as bad or worse than RNG 1.0 is the reason I stopped play Destiny. Unfortunately, Bungie's game theory to keep players in the game, is to deny and delay player progression as much as possible. I don't see this ever changing to be more like a traditional MMO grind.

To those who say the grind will have u coming back I say no it won't

I figured it out..here's the secret to fixing random number generation!!! Its really easy...[spoiler]random+random=random sum Random sum times random=random product Random product divided by random=random quotient Take the random quotient divide by 0.. then shove it up your...... [/spoiler] [spoiler]loot system is random[/spoiler] Guaranteed to work everytime First drop from oryx was a 320 AR.

Out of the 3 KF hard runs I've done, the most recent 2 I have not raised a single light level because everything I get is lower than what I have :/