Should the lighthouse be in moments of triumph? I say yes I don't think the triumph emblems were designed for everyone to obtain, or else they would just send them to everybody's postmaster. Also, it included skolas, and I think the lighthouse is its pvp replacement. PvE is hard for me (believe it or not) and had to try very hard to beat skolas. Now why can't someone get the right teammates and try very hard to go flawless? I absolutely hate PVE, it's just boring camp in the corner and shoot stuff from far away. I hated trying to beat skolas, but I pulled it off anyway. It took some time, but it happened. Now why can't you suck it up, practice, find the right teammates, get the right guns (thorn, TLW, messenger, red death) and play ToO? I get that I can't change what Bungie said, but maybe they will change their minds in the future about pvp. If you have a good argument, say it, but don't make yourself look like a clown and say, UR a fgt, get gud nub, or whatever BS this forum says.