I don't leave matches if I'm getting dominated. Just because I'm beating them doesn't mean they are inexperienced. I understand everyone wants to have fun. But part of the crucible is either be good or be smart. I shouldn't get part of my match, kills and experience taken from me because a player decides to quit. Punish those who quit by not letting them play for a certain amount of time. Don't make it to where the match just ends. Nobody will ever have over 30 kills.

They won't your way either. People will stop playing crucible. Look, I'm no good, but I never leave on principle. You and I would be in the minority. I get dropped in impossible matches all the time, and I can see why others left. You play enough crucible to have seen both sides of it, you know I'm right. When I compete in anything, I want an appropriate challenge. I used to do some martial arts, but that doesn't mean I want to climb in the ring with Tito Ortiz. That's not helping either one of us. You might be a great player, but I doubt you could run up 40 kills on high-level competition. That means you're smacking some pretty defenseless players. Is that really fun to you? If it is, I really don't get it.

My way is the way it already is lol. My highest kills in one game is 46...does that mean the competition was defenseless? I wouldn't say that. Maybe they weren't paying attention that game. Maybe they were trying out a new gun. Maybe they were lagging. As so many of us do in this game. Maybe that's just not there best map. Maybe they are good but I was just better. Nobody really knows. But what I do know is that if I'm completely dominating and nobody has left their team and the match ends for "mercy" then that's just not going to be as fun. Idk how many matches I've joined where we were losing like 10k to 2-3k and came back and won. It was a challenge. It was fun. Now nobody has a chance of an epic comeback. Now they just get the mercy rule.

Oooookay. Don't kid yourself too much about it though. Someone goes over 40 in a match they're either MLG or against complete noobs.

Ok so if we go back and find my 46 kill match and let's say everyone I played against has a 1.5+ kd does that mean I'm MLG? Or is it more plausible to think that it could have been any number of the reasons I stated above.

Anything is possible on an individual basis, but the far greater likelihood is you were playing against inexperienced players. C'mon, you know this.

All 6 just happen to be ultra noobs lol?

Stop with the absolutism. Even if you could show me one match where all the players were 2.0 K/D players, it wouldn't disprove what I'm saying - the bulk of the time you can pull this off is because you are playing noobs. It isn't about whether once you pulled it off against good players - it's about how most of the time, you couldn't. If that were true, EVERY one of your matches would be 40+ kills. So, you have only six Crucible matches you've completed in total? Doubt that. More like hundreds. So... what is your point again?

My entire point is that a ban for leaving s match would be better suited to solve more problems with less downside than a mercy rule would. Let just be completely honest. A mercy rule won't do a single thing to prevent people from leaving. All a mercy rule does it take ways those epic games where you break personal records for most kills in a match. Take away those game where you join a team getting demolished then you guys make an epic comeback for the win. All it's going to do is make people lose now instead of later and prevent any chance of of memorable game.

Put a ban on leaving matches early and you turn a lot of people off of it. Does that help the game? I don't think so. I have no doubt Bungie will get it wrong at first, but at least it can be adjusted.

Isn't that what you want? Lol is that not the WHOLE goal? Either people won't quit....or people that quit won't play.....

What I want is a match that is close. I don't want to beat up on vastly inferior players and I don't want to be clubbed like a baby harp seal. The word "competition" implies "competitive". My ego doesn't need the massage of easy kills.

Lol you just keep trying to take shots don't you? Always got to say something about the level of competition you assume I play against. You really have virtually no crucible experience but idc it doesn't matter. Whatever bro think what u want about it I'm done

Oh, we're going to play the "you have less experience than me" card, eh? I've been a competitive athlete for 40 years. I've been a swimmer, runner, cyclist, triathlete, and power lifter, and been at a high level of competition in all of them. Know something? There is absolutely no satisfaction in dominating athletes vastly inferior to me. I don't seek the easy wins. I go to events that will push me to be better. Now I'm sure you're going to try to argue your domination in a 40+ kill fight is giving the other team just that experience, but... you're wrong. There is a level at which your competitor can pull nothing positive from the event because they couldn't move. They never get a chance to see anything other than spawn/die. That helps no one. I notice in another part of this thread you reveal you aren't an objective player - how surprising. You are just going for the kills, in other words, for yourself. I can't say I'm shocked to hear that you don't have a sense of team play. The other fellow tried to explain how capping zones applied points to everyone, which you shooed off with one of your spurious extreme examples. Fact is, in Control, killing AND capping zones wins the match. But let's get down to the heart of it... attempts to entreat you to see why a mercy rule is an attempt to level matches a bit better will ultimately fail for one simple reason - you don't care about anyone but yourself. Now I ask you - why should Bungie worry about you if all you worry about is you? I'm not saying you should care about Bungie at all... what I'm saying is you are so involved in your own personal goal of dominating, you don't care how it impacts the rest of the game or anyone else. You won't hear it, because your ego won't let you. I'm bad and know it. You're bad and don't know it. If you were good you wouldn't be complaining about the rule, because you know what's going to happen... you're going to have to face better competition or your matches will end quickly. You are about to get challenged, and I don't think you're up for it.

First off let me just explain that I have tried to have a normal conversation with you just expressing my opinions on the matter while taking yours into account. But with every reply you keep sliding in some sort of comment that implies that the only reason I have done well in any given match is that my opponents where not very skilled. That's taking a shot at me. You don't really know how good they where you just assume they must not have been good since a guy on the forums doesn't want a mercy rule. I am in no way worried about an increase in the level of competition. If anything I welcome it. I give as many tips and helpful comments as o can to anyone who may ask for help in the crucible. I try almost every week to run people through the trials who have never made it. My only argument is that I do not see how shortening a game will increase the level of competition I play against. I do play for kills. I play for caps too. That's just not my main priority. I don't play for myself. I think some players are more well equipped to cap nodes with shotguns and class setups. I feel like if I try capping I wind up doing less for my team rather than if I was out there doing what I think I'm better at and being on the aggressive. I don't use shot guns I don't like them. I don't want to defend a flag with a sniper rifle when I know 90% of players are using blink shot gun. I'm not saying I couldn't defend it. I'm saying the odds are not in my favor. I try and clear the area out around the flag so they can cap without getting pushed. Do I think you a bad player no I don't. I don't know you and I have never seen you play. Do I think I'm a bad player ? No I don't I think I'm a pretty good player but far from the best. My only argument this entire time is that I think that shortening the matches will mostly but not completely prevent players from having amazing games with high kills and preventing the from coming back to win with huge deficits. I'm not just speaking for myself here. I've went negative plenty of times but if I went negative and helped my team come back from a huge deficit and win thats awesome players enjoy that. It makes them happy they stuck around. I don't want it to ruin the crucible that's all I can say. I don't see how it will prevent players from joining losing teams. People leave games they are winning!!! Why wouldn't they leave a game they are losing just because a mercy rule !? I have been completely dominated by good teams plenty of times. But I stick around the next match because I want to beat them. I'm not here to argue in here to explain my side of the story and taken to account yours and others thoughts on the opposite side of the subject to maybe come up with a better ideas or maybe to understand better what this rule is supposed to fix. Don't disrespect me and you wont receive any disrespect. I think that is simple. You keep telling me that I'm only doing well because they suck is disrespectful so I'll say something disrespectful back like you don't have enough experience to even have an opinion. If you don't say those types of things then we can keep having a civilized conversation.

You know what? I reread the thread and I can see I got out of line. I apologize. No excuses.