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originally posted in: Hand cannons need a base stat nerf
10/16/2021 6:30:36 PM
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  • Geez why? Cuz they are best?

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  • Did you also complain about the BR in Halo? Or how about the Lancer/Gnasher in Gears of War? These are iconic weapons that have been proven to offer the most enjoyable play-style to the majority of the players. If you like to sit in the back of the map with a pulse, fine, but stop trying to slow the game down even more.

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  • I'm trying to keep trials playable, If hand cannons are skill weapons? Why do you need all the stats? No other weapon has best of the best in every stat group. Aim Assist Impact Range Stability Handling Reload In air accuracy Hip fire I mean come on, the decks stacked.

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  • Bannerfall is a map that favors pulses/longer range weapons. If you’re getting outgunned by handcannons on that map, that’s on you.

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  • Hand cannons have been 20% usage rate in trials ever since trials has launched, tops in over all kills since yrials has launched, they are the most used weapon type in PvP, time for change. Bet you didn't like vex, that's on you

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  • I have zero problems outgunning Vex lol.

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  • Same meta for 6 years hand cannons, shotguns and snipers

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  • Edited by Chunk: 10/16/2021 6:47:27 PM
    I had zero problem going flawless this week vs hand cannon users. There's a reason trials is dying yet again for the 5th time

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  • If .8s like yourself are having zero problems going flawless, I don’t think it’s dying.

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  • Lol I'm .8 vs the top 1% of PvP players Lmfao 1 I'm not 18 anymore hunny n 2 I'm a pve player

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  • Yeah, not everyone you played in Trials is top 1%, so we just confirmed you have zero idea what you’re talking about, and just like every other below 1 KD player on the forums, just scream into the void. Unfortunate.

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  • Lol egotistical, cuz I'm a .8 of in trials I don't know what I'm talking about. Lmfao your ignorant and afraid of change. Who do you think bungie will side with the 600,000 players not returning or the 50,000 that play. Fool.

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  • Lol, look at the previous seasons of Trials by you. You had a .6 KD with a 30% win rate. Now you have a 1.23 with nearly a 70% win rate. Why are you crying?

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  • My idea of trials is a few beers on a Friday night with my clan. You've put in the work to be good gg, you like to play with great players. Good. I'm right where I want to be kd wise, when bungie enables strict SBMM in trials you can feast on yourselves, it happened in comp n it will happen in trials.

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  • They won’t enable strict SBMM in Trials because the game mode doesn’t make sense with it. And besides, who exactly do you think we were playing in Trials the past few seasons? You want to know how many times I’ve played the top streamers you probably watch? A lot. And I’m not roasting you on your KD. I’m simply saying you’re winning/playing way above your previous levels this season, so why are you complaining about Trials? It makes zero sense. If anything, you should be grateful for the way it is right now.

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  • Of course they will, its the same scenario comp went thru best players got the best weapons then they took em away and made SBMM n it sucks cuz its loose. Trials had rewards only for the best players so nobody played, then they made it accessible and gave away loot, freelance won't work unless its strict SBMM, this is a last ditch effort why allocate resources to give only 50,000 players the loot. It will either be strict SBMM or ranked base. Its coming.

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  • It’s not, because it doesn’t work out mathematically. And comp always had SBMM, it just had it in the form of rank-based matchmaking, and if anything, they made it easier now than it was back in Season 3.

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  • I'm only playing above my kd this season because there are so many players playing, it will dry up, I also this season have a ps5 and a monitor to take advantage of 120fps. That helps a lot. I have a running theory almost everybody I know has an inflated kd N kda this season. Why? They are preparing to separate to player pool so the top 33% never play the bottom 33% I'm ok in the mid 33% I've noticed at 1.8 seasonal kda I'm either the best in my lobbies ( that's a crime ) or the worst. See to me your 3.4 or whatever it is makes my 1.8 feel like .6 but to the true .6 control player everyone is a godly.

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  • I mean, KD really doesn’t matter. Mine went up for two reasons: 1. I’m playing against players who aren’t in my skill bracket due to high pop. 2. I’m not getting farmed by Aimbotters/Cheaters every card now that Battleye is out on PC. Like I said, my intention was not to roast you. I was simply saying that if you’ve had unparalleled success, why the complaints? You’re playing well and getting flawless cards more than ever. I don’t understand it. Of course Trials won’t keep the 750k it opened up with this season, everyone knows that, but it won’t die like previous seasons because it will retain a higher pop week to week.

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  • More, better stat guns would make every player better with the weapons they like to use.

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  • I'm tired of the same meta always, why can nothing else share hand cannons stats? The closest thing stat wise is aggressive frame pulses but the handling n reload in air accuracy n hip fire suck. My adept Palis n time lost fate bringers crush every other weapon type base stats not in some categories in every category. Why cant 540 pulses get better reload n handling n in air accuracy, why can't 260 scouts get a better ttk .93 sucks why is vex getting nerfed, its hot yeah, no more then the ace or no time to explain or dmt or last word or thorn. Why do hand cannons always have to be the best, cuz players like them ok, do the need the best stats of every weapon type also, hand cannon users still used them when they didn't n they were still meta. Always will be.

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  • I don’t know. I feel like I’m seeing a ton of variety. Most players I played in Trials last night were running pulses or DMT. I’ve seen a ton of bows as well.

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  • I have a .93 ttk contingency plan with surplus that's how a rapid fire scout should feel, I love it, then I use my abilities n for 2 mins in like why am I using the weapon its awful. Every weapon feels like that except hand cannons. Do I think bungie will buff all other primary weapons base stats no but should they level the field a bit without changing hand cannons range or ttk, absolutely.

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  • Edited by Dismay: 10/16/2021 8:03:20 PM
    You don’t main PC, but we had a DMT meta where it was by far the best gun in the game for months. Also, SMGs might be more deadly than handcannons, but nobody talks about them. Shayura’s can reach 30m and if you proc Kill Clip, you have a TTK of a heavy LMG.

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  • Dmt didn't translate to console some could make it work, few. Smgs were awful on controller until they gave controllers the stabilty buff during deep stone crypt patch.

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