Both hard modes (VoG and CE) ... [b]have way more bugs and glitches !![/b] These often can lead to full team wipes and much much more time spent stuck at the boss and playing the game So if you want to spend (aka waste) a lot more time at the final boss then hard mode may be for you. Oh also you can get gloohoo (ugly shader) or the crux (turns into terrible gun) from Crota And some sweet Chatterwhite (ugly shader) or the Mythoclast (old best gun ever) from Atheon. Good luck GRINDING fellow grindian !! [spoiler]but yeah you can also get a few more shards and energy ........sooooooo yeaaaaaah. Have fun with that. Sorry for my sarcasm im really burnt out on all the bugs and glitches. [/spoiler]