If I was looking for something where I'd find an element of achievement for doing something difficult then I would play monster hunter or dark souls. Both of which are more rewarding and varied from my experience, Monster Hunter 4 is more than likely going to kill Destiny for me when it comes out. If you actually read the original post, both mine and the threads original post you'd realize that this is about the elitism of 32's. The "I'm better than you because..." Oh, and for the record I have no intention to spend the next month and a half grinding the crucible or whatever as before march 10th I get a nice 2 week work trip to HK, Valentines Day, and then Chinese new year, which is kinda a big deal for my better half's side of the family. Understandably, between that and work I don't have a lot of time to do the same crap over and over again.