where exactly did I say it was some massive time consuming effort? And yes, for me it is. I can only play like 3 or 4 times a week. And usually I'm trying to level some gear to 31 so I can do normal mode so I can get the gear, so I can get the shards.....blah blah blah....so I can become 32. 8 hour work day Few hours with the family at night Kid goes to bed Clean up the house Then maybe a few hours of destiny. I can't stay up all night gaming. Also, I don't have lots of reliable people to run with, so many times we will get to crota, have difficulty and people will quit. Just because it's simple for some, it's not for others. I thought I played destiny a lot, but it's not near enough time to have one, much less both of my guardians at 32.