I'm not opposed to playing the raids at all, my biggest problem has been finding a consistent group of people so that is why my interest fizzled. I've played Crota to several checkpoints but never finished, and I heard it's actually pretty short. I see the route this game is taking with the gear, etc. in future updates and it is discouraging. All the people complaining about their VoG gear being obsolete. I don't feel like wasting my time only to see you'll be able to buy it in future expansions. Oh well. Furthermore, I was in this thread because I find it sad how immature some people are on these forums regarding other peoples' level in this game... OH YOU'RE 31! YOU CAN'T RAID! GIT GUD NUB! It gets old real fast.