Not arguing, sorry you took it that way. And I did not say any "cheese" was ok or not ok. I stated that people are merely using the games mechanics to complete it. I did state that there are more than one way of cheesing, for example the hidy hole in the VoG or the hiding areas in the strikes, using ammo synthesis (IMO), staying up top to do templar and oracles, running through strikes and only fighting areas that need to be fought instead of killing everything. Again this is my opinion, not the way I think you should or should not play. The agreement we signed was for legal purposes to help bungie if ever sued. When the first group finished the Crota raid they actually "cheated", if you will. They had a member working on bounties getting his character to 31 then when at Crota they replaced a member with him so they could beat Crota. The first person to solo entire raid was lauded by Bungie themselves. Do you think he did the entire raid the way Bungie intended for it to be done? Not even close. I do not think I have the right to "do whatever I feel" in an MMO gaming environment, but I do have over $400 in this game, bought 2 games for 360 with expansion passes, one for xbox1 with expansion pass and 1 for ps3 with expansion pass. I really enjoy playing the game and I do not feel cheated because someone else found an easier way to play. I have over 728hrs of playing this game and plan to continue playing for a while. The people who only cheese there way through everything are usually not going to be around long enough in the gaming community because they did not grind, work, slave, whatever word you choose to inject here, to achieve a personal goal. The more effort put in will usually give you that false sense of entitlement but because of it you will usually stick with it longer. It sounds like you enjoy the game. Awesome! Keep gaming and remember not to let the little things bother you :)