I can't stand this cheesing crap, I just did a raid with my friend and we did the first part legit, so I'm thinking, ok were going to run this through, and as soon as we get to the bridge, "let's just cheese this and get past it". Whatever it's 1am, and I'm outnumbered, I'll give, but as soon as we get done sniping ogres from where they can't see us and getting the chest, I hear "I have the crota checkpoint, let's just skip the deathsinger", I personally like that fight but was outnumbered again and it was late and it had already taken forever to find a group. But then when we got to Crota and people started saying we need to drop him to his knee and the party leader disconnects, I just got mad. After failing because no one knew how to do it (ps4), I suggested to do it normal and there were 2 people who had been through the raid multiple times but never beat crota legit. I understand there are glitches that should absolutely be fixed, but first there needs to be a patch that makes people know how to do this, I have never been this frustrated with a video game. Me and a few friends found a great team yesterday and beat it in just under 33 minutes no cheesing at all. It can be done, people just want easy rewards, and soon it will be the vault of glass all over again, everyone has the gear so it means nothing, and when all the crap gets patched you won't be able to find a team that can complete it.