I'm the silent dude. I won't claim I'm BA, though, although I do tend to come out at or near the top on relevant kills. I got yelled at a lot on HM Gatekeepers in my PuG raid yesterday for not talking enough, apparently. Here's the deal - stuff like figuring out who's going to go in the portal to cover the ass of whoever died in there, or figuring out who's going to go defend the conflux for whoever's ass died on it, etc. SHOULD NOT BE determined in the oh so common fashion of "OH SHIT x or y person IS DOWN ON MARS! WHO'S GOING TO GO IN?! SOMEONE!! SOMONE GET IN THERE NOW!!! OH FINE I'LL DO IT, YOU GUYS -blam!-ING SUCK!! *wipe ensues* There should be a raid leader who delegates that stuff, and he should be the only person talking except for people calling out Praetorians or other absolutely necessary stuff. I can't STAND when people laugh after wipes, get in fights about who caused the wipe, talk about smoking pot, or just otherwise generally clog up the mic with useless stuff. If that goes on for more than a handful of wipes, I usually drop and just go back to destinylfg to look for another group, because in all likelihood that one's not going anywhere. We're there to get stuff done, not be complete dumbasses for 2 hours. /rant