I too hate PVP and hate that we seem to be forced to do it with exotic bounties and such. I do think the latest patch is good overall but I do agree it would have been great to have the choice. Maybe we should wait and see how it works out first. It might seem okay after awhile. Try and stay positive - it is only a game after all and we should have fun together. I don't go into Crucible much because I suck at it to be frank. But I will still farm anyway and I will still strike with my roster mates and anyone who wants to be a roster mate that is a respectful person and likes to have fun and laughs. AnthonyR1969 Warlock 29 PS4 Eastern Standard Time. Send a friend request and you and I and some others will team up and have some strike fun. If you like doing Nightfall - I am always willing to go into that challenge too. I did VOG on normal to the very end only once but would like to get better at it and build up with a team to hard level. I am in no rush with anything and in fact like to take my time maxing out my guns first.