Honestly.. You're probably right. Both only require simple changes. [b]Thorn[/b] is great as for PvP but lackluster in PvE simply due to ammunition constraints. Fix - Mag from 6 to 8. Increase reserve ammo capacity. Reload speed may be increased. [b]Bad Juju[/b] isn't nearly where it should be. It's most obvious "flaw" is it's 15 round mag, however I believe this is intended due to its signature ability granting it "instant reload" capability and bonus damage after reloading. It's real flaw is that this skill isn't working as well as it should. It's reload speed isn't anything I would call fast even with this ability and the "bonus damage" is negligible given it's small ammo capacity. Fix - Actually grant instant reload capability or at the very least "faster than MIDA" reload capability and boost the damage bonus after reloading. Reserve ammo should also be increased for PvE viability. *MIDA Multi-Tool has a lightning fast reload speed