I don't see PvE-ers complaining about balance issues such as OP supers or OP weapons that are ruining the game for PvP-ers, it's only the other way around. This isn't a balanced game, it's about level and strength. This isn't CoD or Halo anymore. PvP does not make an FPS fun, gameplay does. Just like every other game out there. If PvP was strictly the only thing making FPS's fun then try to convince me that the Bioshock series is purely based on PvP. Bioshock 2's multiplayer was pitiful. Bungie needs four tiers of PvP gameplay to satisfy everyone: 1. Basic, no super, no personal weapon based combat, similar to Halo. Everyone starts off with same stat weapons (ie the same auto rifle/scout rifle/pulse rifle/ hand cannon) and secondary and heavy weapons can be picked up throughout the game. 2. Current crucible gameplay but no supers, such as what you'd find in CoD. 3. Current Crucible gameplay 4. Unbalanced Iron Banner It'll still piss people off, but this way people have that basic 21st century balanced CoD gameplay everyone seems to think is the only way to play FPS's anymore. Wake the hell up