I have to say I feel rather lucky. While I have two friends that regularly play online I had to trug through the forums to find three more people for the VOG. To tell you the trough I didn't think that we would make it through it at all. However thanks to the three allies we found ( mainly two that had done the VOG before and one that had already done it once that day. ) we would stop before each part and plan it out. Talk and discuss for the people new to the group and decide what would work best. We didn't glitch Atheon and while it took two tries we ended with almost all of us laughing and talking like friends. One of our teammates still blind and walking into a corner while another one backed off a cliff. It took a few minutes longer than glitching the boss however we all had fun with it. When someone couldn't handle something we would send someone over to help. Honestly it was one of the most enjoyable times playing destiny for me. But hey that's just me. . . I like having fun and practicing teamwork.