I dont know man... Iam not a fan of the cheesy tactics, but isnt it in fact a different way of aproach? I mean is the game allows different gameplay pathways... Imo even if you cheese it on your first try means you ATLEAST was inside seeing the mob spawn patterns and gameplay. Its like with the first sexual experience... The first time usually sucks, but training makes a difference later... :))) Ive cheesed my first VoG, but i learned alot which will help me on the next raids. PS: on what system u play?