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Modificato da cxkxr:
9/17/2013 3:36:26 AM
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Political ideology and theology
I'd like to see if there's a correlation between the two.
For the sake of clarity I'll give [i]my[/i] definition of Liberal and Conservative. And plz go by the definitions I provide, again, for the sake of clarity.
Liberal: Anyone who wants more govt and more taxes. Believes in socialism, communism, marxism, or central planning. Does not believe in unalienable rights or the Constitution.
(You do not have to meet all the qualifications)
Conservative: Anyone who wants less govt. Believes in liberty, self governence, free market, less taxes. Believes in the Constitution and BoR. does not believe in a nanny state. Also Libertarians and anarchists fit this bill.
(You do not have to meet all the qualifications)
In short:
Liberal: More govt involvement
Conservetive: Less govt involvement
Edit: Plz go by the "in short" defs, as many ppl are getting their jimmies rustled due to disagreement of terminology.
[spoiler]If you are agnostic or unsure if you're a theist or atheist, plz try to pick the one you lean closer too, refrain from the "other" option as much as possible.[/spoiler]
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Modificato da Autolycus: 11/3/2015 3:44:50 PMlolnecro I feel that the idea of collectivism vs individualism and more government vs less government are two separate problems.
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4 RisposteModificato da Durandal: 9/18/2013 9:29:01 PMThose words already have definitions. You don't just make some up based on your stupid bias. Alright guys, the definition for "Orizzle" is now "-a stupid fgt." Plz go by the definition I provide for the sake of clarity.
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1 RispondiI consider myself a libertarian, only slightly more conservative.
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1 RispondiIndependant Theist
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Holy shit, those definitions are so damn wrong.
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BELIEVE
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lol@ "Conservative Theists"
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I have a very Libertarian, Conservative or "Right Wing" view point. I used to consider my self very much liberal and a democrat, however over time my political views change as it does with everyone. As I got older I actually informed myself to the political issues that come up instead of just listening to how the media portrays it, and I found myself leaning more towards a conservative view based on that.
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7 RisposteSmells like bias in here... *walks out of thread*
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8 RisposteModificato da Mr Shojo Rising: 9/17/2013 4:42:28 AM[quote]Liberal: Anyone who wants more govt and more taxes. Believes in socialism, communism, marxism, or central planning. Does not believe in unalienable rights or the Constitution. (You do not have to meet all the qualifications) Conservative: Anyone who wants less govt. Believes in liberty, self governence, free market, less taxes. Believes in the Constitution and BoR. does not believe in a nanny state. Also Libertarians and anarchists fit this bill. (You do not have to meet all the qualifications)[/quote] This is hilariously wrong, by the way. [quote]liberal: favoring maximum individual liberty in political and social reform.[/quote] [quote]conservative: holding to traditional attitudes and values and cautious about change or innovation, typically in relation to politics or religion.[/quote]
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16 RisposteModificato da M37h3w3: 9/17/2013 4:40:43 AM[quote]Liberal: Anyone who wants more govt and more taxes. Believes in socialism, communism, marxism, or central planning. Does not believe in unalienable rights or the Constitution. (You do not have to meet all the qualifications) Conservative: Anyone who wants less govt. Believes in liberty, self governence, free market, less taxes. Believes in the Constitution and BoR. does not believe in a nanny state. Also Libertarians and anarchists fit this bill. (You do not have to meet all the qualifications)[/quote] SO MUCH -blam!-ING BIAS.
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[quote] Liberal Theist. [/quote] I laughed a little
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7 Risposte[quote]Believes in liberty, self governence, free market, less taxes. Believes in the Constitution and BoR. does not believe in a nanny state. Also Libertarians and anarchists fit this bill.[/quote]You're kidding right? Conservatives didn't just take a sh*t on the constitution and liberty. They blew their noses and wiped their asses with it several times.
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1 RispondiThose are pretty extreme definitions for Liberal and Conservative.
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4 RisposteI take sides on specific issues from both sides, but I'm more socially liberal and more fiscally conservative. I'm also a foreign policy conservative, one could say "hawkish". As for religion, I don't really know. I was raised in Christian home but I don't really follow that. My girlfriend is a Lutheran and I sometimes go to church with her, but I don't really believe in all the stuff she does. I also like learning about Islam, but again, I don't necessarily follow that religion.
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Post Modern: Independent who is registered as a democrat, shortened. Basically in the middle. Am Jewish
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Your definitions are bad and biased
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I wonder which political party OP sides with...
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2 RisposteI am an Athauritarian Liberalist.
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5 RisposteYou do realise Marxists are effectively anarchists, right? By your definition I would be a conservative, and I refuse to acknowledge myself as such. I fit this for liberal. [quote]Believes in socialism, communism, marxism, or central planning.[/quote] And this for conservative. [quote]Anyone who wants less govt. Believes in liberty, self governence... does not believe in a nanny state.[/quote] But, for the sake of your satisfaction - I will vote conservative.
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4 RisposteEven using the terms "liberal" and "conservative" in American context is kind of stupid. Stack that on to a seemingly blatant attempt at trolling and all in all this is a pretty poor thread. But because I'm in a good mood, I'll not only take a pointless snip at the thread, I'll also post a pointless answer. For a long time I identified as a totalitarian populist but given more recent delves into political science and related topics, I think it would be more accurate to just say I'm a totalitarian Marxist - the difference being that Marx was not necessarily standing in opposition to the elites as much as he was standing [i]for[/i] the proletariat (which some might argue is effectively equivalent but I digress). As far as my theological views, those aren't something I talk about with very many people.
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Other:Neither liberal or conservative, neither theist or atheist TaP i think for myself Master Race
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54 RisposteI fail to see the difference between the Taliban and the Republican party these days.
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26 Risposte[i]Your[/i] definition is wrong. Don't throw around big words unless you know what they mean.
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1 Rispondi[quote]Liberal: Anyone who wants more govt and more taxes. Believes in socialism, communism, marxism, or central planning. Does not believe in unalienable rights or the Constitution. (You do not have to meet all the qualifications) Conservative: Anyone who wants less govt. Believes in liberty, self governence, free market, less taxes. Believes in the Constitution and BoR. does not believe in a nanny state. Also Libertarians and anarchists fit this bill.[/quote]>mfw there are people who actually believe this >mfw I have no face that looks sufficiently disappointed
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1 RispondiYou are obviously a dumbass conservative, I can tell by your definitions liberal and conservative...
