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7/5/2013 3:48:46 AM
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is zimmerman guilty
i think hes a white supremicist
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1 RispondiYes. Mostly because if you're following someone around with a loaded gun you're basically looking for trouble and therefore even if put into a self-defense scenario your original intention was to possibly use your weapon.
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2 RisposteModificato da Brociopath: 7/7/2013 4:54:43 AMAsk /pol/, they will have a logical answer for this.
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No he wasn't guilty, but the court will say guilty because of the mass black riots that will inevitably ensue.
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Well, the prosecution cases is shoddy at best.
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Hell no, when someone jumps you and starts beating on you and slamming your head against concrete, you have every right to defend yourself. Anyone who says Self Defense doesn't apply is uneducated.
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I've really heard nothing about this. But I live in Britain.
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I just could not care less about this whole trial/case.
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7 RisposteI wondered if this would become a topic. Believe it or not, this comment is worth at least skimming. Honestly it's hard to tell, the weird thing is this is really about the legitimacy of [i]Stand Your Ground[/i] and/vs [i]Castle Doctrine[/i], not innocence or guilt. Stand Your Ground laws do not require citizens to warn their potential attacker, their is no [i]Duty to Retreat[/i]. In effect I could lure someone into a situation, kill them, claim self defense, and potentially get away with it if no witness survived.[spoiler]A couple things to take into account: Zimmerman followed Martin after being ordered not to; the part of his story regarding how the altercation began is jumbled (essentially he claims he was head-on pushed by Martin but resultingly ended up moving [b]forward[/b]); also he claims to have drawn his weapon and shot Martin in the chest during the climax of the fight. Imagine you're laying down, you draw and, with your elbow against the ground, have to angle your weapon roughly 90 degrees to shoot for the chest.[/spoiler]Zimmerman made no attempt to keep Martin alive (instead he tried restraining him... But doesn't mention when the body stopped moving), nor to instead wound him, nor to actively prevent the altercation from occurring, nor to cooperate with the 911 operator. He seems like a dolt, to be completely honest. Maybe he was just ignorant of his actions and the severity of the situation. Still, does ignorance grant innocence? There are no really reliable witnesses... And Zimmerman is arguably vague with details. Can anything be argued that the innuendo of his actions should guarantee a conviction? The verdict is a bit tricky. I doubt an actual, responsible gun toting BA, like Recon over here, would have reacted to the situation in the same way Zimmerman did. Since not all of us can haz Recon (this needs a bit of lightheartedness), a change of law is order to deter this, ignorant or otherwise, type of exploitation of legislation.
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Guilty of what?
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1 RispondiOf what?
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Modificato da Bobby Hill: 7/7/2013 3:57:20 AMThe prosecution has made a horrible case. They really haven't proved much in my honest opinion, I think Zimmerman will be out on lesser charges if any at all.
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he int wite
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We on the Flood cannot really say for sure because we're not in the courtroom so we don't get all of the information present.
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One of the witnesses there claimed that while Zimmerman did greatly exaggerate how many times his head had been bashed against the ground, (Zimmerman said the number was somewhere around 50 or something when the actual number was 4-12), but that confirms his head was being bashed against the ground. And at the same time, a Captain in the police force claimed that self defense is better to done earlier than later. I'd say thats pretty convincing evidence right there that Zimmerman isn't guilty.
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5 RisposteDoes it really take us 6 months to decide the verdict on a court case?
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2 RisposteModificato da Recon Number 54: 7/6/2013 10:36:41 PMStill presumed innocent until and unless he is determined to be guilty of the charges beyond a reasonable doubt by the jury who is still hearing the case. When they decide, then that is the decision.
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No, while zimmerman shouldnt have gone after trayvon, he was defending himself But i have a feeling the jury will say guilty because of threats of violence outside of the court room
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If the jury has any sort of moral or intellectual integrity, they'll say that Zimmerman is not guilty.
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5 RisposteWhere's the *shrugs* option?
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Guilty of murder
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Eh it all depends on how you look at it which is always how it is
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4 RisposteGuilty of what exactly?
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Third option
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2 RisposteWhy the-diddly-fuck does anyone care? For Golden Buddha's sake, what the-diddly-hell is up with Bnet today... Shit...
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4 RisposteAnybody who answers with any of those options is a sheep who doesn't know how the US Judicial system works.
