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12/20/2025 8:57:31 AM
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Handcannons are scout rifles now in pvp
Amazing how a handcannon outmatches most scout rifles now.... Destiny 2 pvp is such a wonderful experience nowadays (input sarcasm)
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5 Risposte100 Range Adaptive Handcannon = 37.5metres 100 Range Aggressive HC (highest archetype) = 40.5m 30 Range Lightweight Scout = 69.9m (low range stat) 100 Range High-Imapce Scout = 91.8m (over double best range HC) Get the sentiment but Handcannon-Scout Range isn’t even close.
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Scout player talking about hc range. [spoiler] skill issue[/spoiler]
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Move further back. Can’t tell you how many times I’ve been 3-tapped by a mf with a scout who isn’t even on my radar.
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4 RisposteModificato da Crota bin Oryx: 12/21/2025 5:07:39 PMAfter playing other PvP games, I think this is mostly an issue in D2 because of map sizes. HC is more optimal for the mid range line of sight than scouts. Most maps are not big enough. 🤏
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1 RispondiModificato da Cooper: 12/22/2025 1:48:20 PMNo its the fact maps are far too small due to original fireteams being 4V4 and not 6V6.
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3 RisposteI never understood why bungie constantly buffs hc. They have always been the very best weapon primaries for pvp. They are the only weapon archetypes where aim assist is near max, their ttk is consistent, they do a ton of flinch and they are one of the best weapons for peek shooting. Now with the added range, they are the ultimate weapon archetype. Ive been trying to use pulse rifles, auto rifles, smg’s and side arms and I instantly realized there is just no point in using them when my hand cannon is miles better at every range. I always enjoy pvp whenever we get a rifle meta. This includes auto rifles, smg’s, pulse rifles, heck even bows are viable in these types of meta. Anytime a hc is meta, thats all we can literally use. It’s boring as heck.
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Now? Where TF have you been. They’ve always had too much range in PvP.
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4 RisposteIts a hand held cannon, what do you expect
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Always have been imo. For some reason....
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I got the new trials HC with 95 range + keep away, the thing is a sniper lmao
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Yep he's right Bungie.
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All day, every day. It's ridiculous.
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[quote]Amazing how a handcannon outmatches most scout rifles now.... Destiny 2 pvp is such a wonderful experience nowadays (input sarcasm)[/quote] It’s really bad frankly it’s been bad since day 1
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Unfortunately they've always been able to perform at virtually any range, with only super close range being slightly more challenging, against sidearms or smgs. Needless to say they were a problem in D1, still are now. Likely always will be.
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The have ALWAYS had too much PvP range
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I've always felt the hand cannons were OP. They've always had insane range and damage and in my view have always outdueled any other gun including scouts.I don't think this is new.Ive been playing Crucible for a few years now.I can usually tell what kind of game it will be by the amount of hand cannons in the game. If my team doesn't have at least some, we're gonna get crushed.
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Hand cannons have always had too much range. Way too much for the type of gun they are anyway. Max range on a hc should be the 180 range or auto rifle range
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You're playing in hand cannon range. Distance is your friend with a scout. ✌️
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Try out a fang of it yut or a jade rabbit and come back to me. Yes adagio is broken, that’s about it though.
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Exactly
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37 RisposteAlways have been… always felt with the maps how they are… so easy to path …. Handcannons should do next to no damage or have severe accuracy penalties over 23m
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1 RispondiWhy are you trash cans always on my team? matchmaking is broken
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2 RisposteOk fake news cnn
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Boss what about timeworn wayfarer? I know my one scout rifle main buddy swears by that thing.
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here to read players getting ragebaited by this post
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If you're losing to a HC with a scout you must be within 35m ish meters. Positioning issue
