In my opinion, these two SMGs are probably the worst SMGs in the entire game. And for me it seems like a common reason: 13 zoom. And yet, neither of these SMGs are getting the zoom treatment like the other ones when they desperately need it. I don't understand why. Cold Front is a rare weapon to come across and its usage is terribly low and the only reason Forensic Nightmare might be used more is because it's accessible and craftable, but it's still not worth it to use in PvP. You might find a niche reason or two to use them in PvE, but it definitely isn't because of the stats. With the sandbox and even after next season begins, I find these zooms on these SMGs to still be unreasonable. Let's say that you like using The Title with a certain special weapon type but you wanted to switch your weapons around and use an alternative Kinetic Aggressive SMG with a special weapon. Would you use Cold Front then? I still wouldn't. It's just that bad and is nothing like The Title. If Cold Front is going to come back every Dawning event, it really needs touched up. And Forensic Nightmare needs looked at too. It's not very competitive either. At least bump them up 1 zoom level or something.