Long day of work, some of my clanmates grinded last night and got the hand canon, and the adept Messenger. So I was looking forward to grabbing some clanmates, so I could get my hands on these two really good guns. Get home, and it's candled again. To be honest, I don't know who to be more upset with, win traders, or Bungie. One thing is for certain, Bungie needs to realize people are going to go any length to avoid playing this game mode fairly. From exploits, cheaters, traders, pay to win. It's never, ever going to end. This will never be as good, or even remotely as good as it was in D1. I think it's time to put the loot in other places, and scrap the mode. TLDR: Game mode stinks, needs redo or a scrap, put loot somewhere else, grumpy I still don't have the goods.