i play crucible a lot..way more than i should lol. ya win some ya loose some, it is what it is. so i didnt play last season, i got bored with ow and picked up destiny again. and apparently im the only crucible loving wierdo who does not have the new juicy Felwinters . that is all. definitely missing out by not playing the only season i should have lmao. i hope ib gives us a felwinters competitor..or do like a "season of the lost" where you can acquire weapons from past seasons that you were unable to during that time. either way im enjoying destiny again, having fun, devils ruin is my felwinter...for now and btw people get way to extra in these forums. if you dont like the state of pvp..dont play. if you have b/c of a quest then do what you need to do , and continue on. dont come in here complaining about how you have to play the big scary crucible. lol just do it and bounce. move on with your day. peace.love.cayde