I hate the filthy casual arguement. Being elitist does not make a video game better, it makes it more boring. The problem here is that the amount of effort makes the game feel like a chore or second job. Some of us have enough real world work that putting a stupid amount of grindy boring effort in with little to no thought does not appeal as a good way to have fun. Destiny 2 is fun right now getting back into it, but being able to perform all the functions of the game should not be blocked to people because they "play casually." ARK:SE was a lot of fun, but after a while it felt like a chore/job to get on. Not everyone lives in their mommas basement and no lifes D2 with Cheeto dust covering their shirt/neckbeard. C'mon man.