I'd have to partially disagree with #3. You can't improve if you ignore criticism, be it negative or positive. We didn't get all the changes we got in Forsaken by rubbing shoulders and praising vanilla D2.

I just wanna drop in and remind everyone that hundreds if not thousands of people have been resectfully asking for changes on BNet and Reddit for years and Bungie hasn't listened. I say this not to be insulting but because it's the truth. Bungie is not listening to you and does not care what you want.

Regarding number 2: This is the [b]official Destiny 2 forums[/b], created by none other than Bungie themselves? Why should we have to go to an outside source to try and get our feedback heard? You’d think they’d have more open ears for this place.

[quote]1. Don't complain to Bungie on the weekends or holidays. Bungie people go to the pub or see their families. (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EBVyjaRWkAAvjIQ.jpg)[/quote] Their fault for having an open connection to the Internet and letting people communicate with them on personal social media. Should have considered that before making all of these poor decisions. [quote]2. Bungie people prefer to use reddit over bungie.net for good reasons as its a better platform to keep track of feedback or find posts, and it's less of a salt mine compared to B.net. (Have an account on Reddit.com)[/quote] It should not matter where the feedback comes from. At all. Plus, this forum came first and should be treated as the more direct platform to communicate with Bungie. The only reason it ISN'T is because the devs don't want to have a presence here due to not wanting to be told the truth of their poor decisions. [quote]3. Don't try to criticize them or call them idiots. They are more likely to actually listen to you if you treat them with respect, and are interested in them or helping them. (People usually act defensive or stubborn if you criticize them. Just don't act "company worshiping"). [/quote] This part? F*ck this part. They are a professional game developer. They are not infallible and they deserve to hear every piece of feedback from every source. What you are suggesting here is to not tell them what they are doing wrong or they are going to clam up like children, with arms crossed and a big fat pout on their faces. Forget that. I'll tell them how shit their lack of new armor for the base game vendors is all I want. [quote]4. Use what you can to get on top without making a mess.[/quote] No vendor refresh or new armor/weapons for EDZ, Titan, Nessus, Io, Mercury, Mars, Tangled Shore, Dreaming City or the Tower. No factions. No new activity variations or events for Escalation Protocol, Black Armory Forges, Menagerie and STILL no new Infinite Forest activity outside of Holiday Events. Paid Seasonal Content (except armor and weapons) being removed after every Season. Everything that was good about Shadowkeep is pointless when the necessary shit that needs doing is not being done. Bungie need to just [b]stop[/b] with this weird decision-making process. It started with the reboot in 2013, it happened with every release associated with D2 and it is afflicting this DLC right now. It's garbage. All of it, hot stinking garbage.

5. Dont buy their products and instead buy things that offer what you're looking for.

I think a lot of disrespectful comments come from a place of frustration. This is due to a lot of ongoing feedback that is either completely ignored, commented on but never actioned or when they do finally make a change, warping/twisting what was asked for into something that wasn’t what was wanted.

Wait a min, so Bungie can be disrespectful, lie, create cash grabs, don't have to put any effort creating a decent game but we have to kiss their.... just to get them to maybe pay attention? [spoiler]Lmao...[/spoiler]

This community is a direct reflection of how bungie has treated it.

If you think Reddit is a democratic open platform... right. If you complain too much it will go down the drain and down voted to deletion.

Good point. Seems like b.Net players play n rage ingame, and grab their phones immediately coming here to go off on bungie. .... I know that game.

Or just do what Deej has said numerous times “speak with your time”.

Change your name to Datto

Number 1 Top: Be a streamer and YouTuber with so much filler you make 35 second video into 10+ minutes while having a circle jerk of preteens (who think the original Super Mario Bros is hard and Punch-Out!!! is unfair) eating up what you say and demand the game be catered to how YOU play

Start a YouTube channel. Only speak positive things about Bungie and Destiny. Acquire 100k subscribers. Become an extension of Bungie’s PR team. Ta-da! You have Bungie’s ear.