So you guys think destiny is hard....lol. What would need dumbing down exactly. You realize just about all the raids are usually tell your symbol to someone etc literally things children could do in a group of people competent enough. The only thing they would need to do is make sure everyone is willing/ is on voice coms willing to participate or offer it only for a normal version so people could see the inside of it the thing without much challenge, but like i said none of destiny's content is exactly breaking in it's challenge bar a few hidden things but it's more because of it's vagueness than actual challegne. You guys do realize that borderlands 2 has a ton of challenging content and that game can be played completely solo and shines very well in co-op. This is why borderlands 3 will release and more than likely crush anything bungie will do going forward, because they give people the option to play how they want to not told how they should.