Agreed 100% But Bungie doesn't care about the competitive players. They'd much rather leave crucible as a grenade spamming, high dmg res supers out the ass, and one shot weapon fest. Bungie created Halo 3 so they know about competitive game play. They know what they're doing. Destiny PvP is one giant noob fest that doesn't reward actual skill. For some folks, that's fun. And I'm cool with that. I can't argue what's fun for you and not fun for me.