HAHA Someone finally figured what I was seeing i.e. that the masterworks seem to be just re-allocating stats not adding anything! Bungie's design team really do seem to think they are so clever no-one will notice their various deceptions. I can imagine the conversation Dev: The masterworks will give players a nice little boost in crucible. MN: Fek no! How about we just hide the mechanics of masterworks. Dev: What do you mean. They add to a stat: MN: Yea but, what if that addition is simply a redistribution? Dev: Hu? You mean adding 10 handling removes 2 from each of the other stats? MN: Does it? Oh well I guess I'll sign that off. Dev: What? No..it...oh...right...Sit down, code and STFU....I get ya... At this stage it's time to call the police and have the abusive spouse arrested. They're not going to change and it's time you faced that!