[quote]Oh I agree that the people who say they are "locked out" of content really aren't. The only thing in D1 that I saw a barrier to getting was the adept weapons. Flawless was very difficult and it was the only way to get those guns (and the 5 and 7 win loot to an extent). Personally, I like that I use a gun in PvE and jump to PvP and it behaves and feels exactly the same. Not everyone thinks this way though and I know that. Bungie will do what they feel is best for the game as a whole, they aren't in this to fail.[/quote] I like that too but if we want it to remain like that, as Bungie seems to want it to, then we need to accept a couple things. Either we need to accept that all weapons will be balanced first for PVP, which will make PVE very boring, or we accept that the game should NEVER be competitive in nature due to the fact that loot can influence outcomes, and just accept PVP for what it is: a fun, but not necessarily balanced or competitive experience. You can't have your cake and eat it too, and going with one or the other has its consequences.