for me its 3 things. 1. i dont like talking while im playing a game. ruins my experience when i have someone talking to me, regardless if its about the game or something of their private life i couldnt care less about. 2. whenever i play a game i always love to listen to the music. either the games music or the music blasting through my stereo, thats my nr. 1 reason why i dont like to party up with others in a nightfall or raid - or any game of that matter. 3. i do have more than enough time to play but i always have to help out my family every couple hours with something, so im pretty sure that would be very annoying during a raid. i can live without the nightfall, currently "powerful engrams" decrypt into lower power level gears anyways, so whats the point? im probably going to miss out on one or two weapons / armor pieces from raid but thats it. i did vog in destiny 1 like 2 or 3 times and didnt rly saw the appeal of it. wasnt bad, but wasnt that amazing either.