I wouldn't go off grimroir. I've been playing since the beginning, but can't be bothered to give a f*ck about grinding grimroir. Anyways, id say Pve took a massive hit, I liked snipers and shot guns being burst damage weapon to handle priority targets like knights wizards praerorians etc. But I think the change was awesome for PvP. Hopefully Bungie implements changes to make us feel like badass space wizards in pve. 4v4 is pretty good, but sometimes I Miss the chaos of 6v6. 4v4 has alot of team coordination, which sucks for a solo player. I wish pve kept the gun system form d1. Buff heavies so they out dps snipers, and or slow down sniper reload, let's be honest pve was awesome for alot of d1 and they should try as hard as possible to keep that feeling. I don't care if it plays different in PvP I'll adjust, but nobody wants wattered down pve. Anyways just a few thoughts take them as you like!