Wow... OP is a bit high and mighty huh? I am a Destiny alpha/beta vet. I'm into the first game at 3875 Grimoire and roughly 300 hours between my two main characters. That is plenty of time to know if you like something and become proficient at it, especially when you have a more than full time job, family and college. In fact, I would say that when you get above 5000 hours into a game... it's probably become an obsession. I got pissed at the first Destiny and practically stopped playing all together minus the story DLC portions after the year one nerf. I'm still pissed about that. As for Destiny 2's Beta... the PVE is much improved and more story driven. The PVP is still pretty much the same crap we've come to expect from every FPS game.