I havent pre-ordered because destiny 1 and the amount of crap tastic balancing issues they had. As well as the first 2 dlcs that felt like a complete waste of money. That argument however is stupid and have hated it since the first time it was used. I will not pre-order or buy period till i know i enjoy it. I have not played the beta and will not till it is open. As it stands theh do not deserve any more of my money. How about you grow a brain and figure it out for yourself.