I think all of us who've played since the beginning should be cautious about the sequel. My HOPE is that they have learned. PvP and pve must be completely separate. No exception. Make pve more like pre-TTK. Do not make pve players progressively more and more underpowered. Running w fun guns, gear and abilities made pve fun. Removing the y1 stuff killed the desire to do any endgame for me. The pvp driven nerfs, one after another, on and on made pve far less fun. Noo one wanted to grind for good gear only to see it become obsolete and no one played pve expecting or hoping to get WEAKER over time. That's not the formula that makes things fun. How hard is that to understand? Idk but I'm going to wait till mid November and check the forums and reviews before i dive into destiny 2. If they still have pvp and pve intertwined then i will pass. *I'm not going to start playing again even though i loved ther original raids but I'm very happy for those players who didn't experience y1. They raids are fun. True, things have been nerfed and the fact that elemental primaries are now exotic(?????) wasn't a good idea, i still think the newer players will be happy. Op: you summed it up so flawlessly. ..... thanks for posting that. Let's just hope they learned during the last 2.5 years. Have a great weekend everyone