When will the console makers, ISP's, infrastructure owners and game companies get together and agree to deliver a standard that removes lag/latency/jitter etc from our game world ??? What will it take, do us players have to form a pressure group, or a union and go on strike, or just give up playing??? Online games should carry a standard mark indicating that they have produced their game inaccordance within the standard e.g. Destiny AAA rating = 99% lag free *when played on ISP with the same rating and console with same. We deserve better than what we have right now, the amount of lag and the number of players I have played against and alongside this week in the Iron Banner with less than a full green bar is too many, far too many for it to be called good for gaming, it's not good for this game nor for the industry in general!!