I keep posting the "other side" of the sbmm argument every so often. I was more active a few months ago than I am now Back in January/ February time I managed to convince quite a few people who had a bad time in year 1 to return and try out pvp with sbmm I think the main problem is that people who prefer sbmm are not as good at pvp and don't have as much experience. Some are just too quiet to admit it; others don't know what it would be like in cbmm The guy I replied to put across the point very well despite being a good player - it's good to see that