A lot of people, including myself, play plenty of other online games without any issues, specifically without the constant issues that Destiny has. From vanilla through today, there has always been issues with connection on Destiny, in PvE AND PvP activities. There is no excuse for it. The code is simply bad, and probably a result of shipping an unfinished game after scrapping everything a year before release. I can play 64 man BF4 games and have no issues. Titanfall, no issues. CoD, no issues. Destiny? Error codes out the ass, lag and disconnects. No amount of router configs or ISP help is going to fix bad code. I am tired of Bungie placing the blame on players, when it is clearly a problem within Destiny itself.