PVP crybabies have basically ruined everything for PVE players. When the quiver glitch was happening in PVP, they blocked the perk completely because it's not possible for them to change every gun/perk/stat to be fair in crucible, AND stay the same in PVE. They can't have 2 sets of mechanics for everything, and the PVP bitches cry the loudest, so they will always get their way. Go play CoD or battlefield if you want to sit they're playing PVP all day, leave the rest of us to fight hordes of NPCs our own way. [spoiler]They should get rid of PVP altogether.[/spoiler]